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Created on : Friday, October 14, 2005, 04:01:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/21/05) Money is often cited as the number one reason couples divorce. Dr. Phil talks with moms who say their need for cash is causing major problems. First, Andy and Lynn are newlyweds whose marriage is already falling apart. Lynn says she has to pay for expenses that her waitress salary can't possibly cover, and she has to beg her husband if she needs money. Andy says his wife relies on him for everything and he doesn't think she should get a free ride. Can their marriage withstand the pressure? Then, Alice has invented a product that she thinks will make her millions. But after putting in over $160,000 and turning their house into a factory, her husband has had enough. Does Alice have a great invention or should she just give up? Plus, two moms have a dream of opening up their own boutique, but their husbands say they both need a reality check. Join the discussion.


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March 24, 2006, 4:08 pm PST

Nail 21

I was disappointed when I went out to ebay and didn't find the nail 21.  I would be more than happy to buy one.  I think it's a great idea and we women can all succeed if we support each other.  Please let me know where I can find one.  (by the way, the other holders that Dr. Phil showed are both on Ebay)  I have found that it is much easier to go to ebay to buy an item instead of driving, parking, walking, looking, buying, and back home again.   Sandie
 
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March 24, 2006, 4:17 pm PST

Liked your show concerning business

The two women wanting to open a business seemed to think owning a business is all fun and games what kind of world do they live in. They talk about a 100 thousand dollars like its pocket change. I can't believe their husbands  being business owners already couldn't give them the assistance and advice on the information you gave them.  

 

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March 24, 2006, 4:50 pm PST

The last two ladies on the show...

First time this aired I only got to see the beginning of it but now that I've seen the whole thing...wow, just wow at the last two ladies.

Dr Phil kept calling them smart and sharp...I think he was just trying to be nice. They are the epitomy of silly girl-women. Those kind of women, at least from what I saw on the show, are the kind of women that give all us stay at home mom's bad names.

Dippy with no street sense and watch Sex and the City waaaaaay too much.

Martini's while shopping? Kids behind the scenes? Making $100,000????

It's embarassing for my sex, it honestly is. These women give breath to the stupid idea that men are smarter then women.
 

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March 24, 2006, 4:52 pm PST

03/24 Moms Money Conflicts

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I was disappointed when I went out to ebay and didn't find the nail 21.  I would be more than happy to buy one.  I think it's a great idea and we women can all succeed if we support each other.  Please let me know where I can find one.  (by the way, the other holders that Dr. Phil showed are both on Ebay)  I have found that it is much easier to go to ebay to buy an item instead of driving, parking, walking, looking, buying, and back home again.   Sandie
I totally agree. I would probably  buy one too. I don't paint my nails often so I'm not very good at it. I also don't have a vanity so I paint my nails on my bed or floor our couch.

I also would buy one for my SIL and my MIL and probably some of my Aunts.


 

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March 24, 2006, 5:03 pm PST

03/24 Moms Money Conflicts

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I am a recent stay at home mom. I have worked just about all my adult life. In Nov. 2005, I be came a stay-at-home mom. My ex-husband is not really helping with our four kids, so my new husband told me that I did not have to work. The only thing I don't like is that I don't like spenting his money. Chris my new husband get mad at me when I say that, but it is true. He tells me everyday that I have the hardest job in the world and this taking of  all five of our kids. I guess I really would not mind being at home if the kids were here, but they are not. All of them go to school. So I am bored during the day. The house cleaning only takes me two hours. AM I CRAZY!!!
Geeze, come on, you aren't spending "his" money.

You are spending "our" money. You take care of kids all day. You should get paid for that if the world was fair. How much to nanny's get paid these days? $400 a week?

Do you see how looking at money this way is asinine? You are a unit, a team, a family. Why did bringing in the pay check suddenly become some godly act.  Any moron can bring home a pay check.

If you are bored during the day get a hobby. Volenteer. Visit a shut in in your area and bring them lunch everyday. Get a part time job. Write a novel. Seriously. Don't be bored, you know what they say about bored people....

When my daughter gets in school I plan on being involved in the school as much as I can, PTA, teachers aide...those kinds of things.

Find something to do. I'm an atheist but I still believe there is wisdom in the idea that idle hand are the devils playground.
 
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March 24, 2006, 9:15 pm PST

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I totally agree. I would probably  buy one too. I don't paint my nails often so I'm not very good at it. I also don't have a vanity so I paint my nails on my bed or floor our couch.

I also would buy one for my SIL and my MIL and probably some of my Aunts.


We contacted Walgreens in fact they were first on our list and they did not respond. Since that time we had worked the largest beauty show In Illinois and found that gals loved the product. In fact we sold over 1000 of them at the show for $10 each and we are now distributing the product through the salon full serve market. 

  

Someone else commented about the other products  shown and and they are correct they dont hold the bottle well and they do not tilt proper. With nail-21 you can see the bottle, its contents and its cute and really works. You can tilt to any angle, get the polish with no spills and tilt it to have both hands free.  

  

Sorry about taking it off ebay. if you like I will put it back on just search for nail polish holder.  I have found that ladies all over the world understand this product and the problem it solves, and they love it.  Dr. Phil nor his staff, nor the moms town gals understand it.  In fact they did not even have the bottle in it properly. If you ever had to hold the bottle tilt it in your hands and try to polish or spilled on the night stand, floor or table you know what this product will do.  

  

  

  

 
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March 24, 2006, 9:27 pm PST

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I am a recent stay at home mom. I have worked just about all my adult life. In Nov. 2005, I be came a stay-at-home mom. My ex-husband is not really helping with our four kids, so my new husband told me that I did not have to work. The only thing I don't like is that I don't like spenting his money. Chris my new husband get mad at me when I say that, but it is true. He tells me everyday that I have the hardest job in the world and this taking of  all five of our kids. I guess I really would not mind being at home if the kids were here, but they are not. All of them go to school. So I am bored during the day. The house cleaning only takes me two hours. AM I CRAZY!!!
You are very fortuante to have a great husband to know what it is all about to be a mom and a wife. My hubby is the same way and boy do I appreciate him for seeing and believeing in me as his wife and the mother of his children. The money that your husband is both of your money because you are one, in my opinion, there is no, "my money, your money" when it comes to a marriage, it's all about working together and you being a mom of 5 kids, man, you deserve to have this time, take this time to prepare special things for your family, get involved in something fun like maybe scrapbooking, do you have friends who are also stay at home mom's? maybe get with them, even if their kids are with them, invite them over for lunch or something. Use them time to do things for your self, I go to Curves for work out and i love it. I also like to visit the elderly, maybe invest some time in visiting a nursing home, you would be surprised in how lonely some of those people get.. get creative, maybe even do something nice for your husabnd like plan a candle light dinner for the to of you, You have a great man there and if need or maybe he would agree for you to get a part time job, a few hours a day or something but w hatever the case, his money is your money too because you take care of the home and family and that is the most imporant job that one can have.
 
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March 25, 2006, 12:53 am PST

I'm a cottage industry owner and...

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First time this aired I only got to see the beginning of it but now that I've seen the whole thing...wow, just wow at the last two ladies.

Dr Phil kept calling them smart and sharp...I think he was just trying to be nice. They are the epitomy of silly girl-women. Those kind of women, at least from what I saw on the show, are the kind of women that give all us stay at home mom's bad names.

Dippy with no street sense and watch Sex and the City waaaaaay too much.

Martini's while shopping? Kids behind the scenes? Making $100,000????

It's embarassing for my sex, it honestly is. These women give breath to the stupid idea that men are smarter then women.

have established, grown and sold 3 businesses before my current endeavor.  I can guarantee these ladies that they haven't even begun to scratch the surface. They are called in the industry "visionaries" and have a LONG way to go to become entrepreneurs.  I can't begin to list the preliminary work that should start at least a year before the doors open.  It involves lots of money, time, (multiply those lots and lots), babysiters, commitment times more money and time than they are at present aware that they are willing to invest and they both need courses in business education.  

  

A good S.C.O.R.E. counselor wouldn't hurt either.  Someone to keep them in check and balance with common sense issues.  Oh, and may I suggest a SBA Busineswoman's Association to assist them with other issues they will be facing and a boat load of attorneys who will be willing to deal with all these issues they will be dealing with when they have alcohol and minor children on the same property?  They will then have the Dept. of Child Protective Services on their hands as well as the other public officials after them for offering alcohol in the presence of minors. 

  

Ladies, you have dug a grave here and not a legitimate business plan.  Instead of pie in the sky, back up and start over.  Instead of coffee at the dining room table and pipe dreams, try really getting into the mood by contacting vendors, licencing agencies, CCR, DunandBradstreet, City, State and Federal Taxing Agencies, and all those folks you will need to gleen information from in order to start a business.  Decide if you will be a corporation, profit or non, LLC or partnership, etc. 

  

Lots of decision.  Lots of reality.  Lots of risk. Position, Pricing and Product.  Keep that in mind.  Good luck.  Not meant as legal advice.  Don't take it as such.  Just a but of wisdom from one who has been there and still there each time I open a business. 

  

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March 25, 2006, 2:27 am PST

Get Real

That first couple desperately needs to add the word "OURS" to their vocabulary!  We marry to form a couple, not two singles.

I might add that  many men these days are afraid of loosing everything to divorce: It's a valid fear that women must be sensitive to. In fact, not being sensitive to this fear is reason to reject her as a marriage partner.  Hmph!  That in no way excuses either one of them!

For the other three women?  GET A BUSINESS PLAN! GET A MARKETING PLAN!  Small business is a great way to make a living. That said, ya just gotta be real about it. Small business is business. There's a lot of up front work to be done before the business ever opens.

I must say I do like the idea of more women starting small businesses. The stay-at-home moms gain a LOT by taking a page from the stay-at-home dad's book. Remember almost all stay-at-home fathers make some money from part time business: It's a lesson the women should learn as it helps everyone in the family.

Back when I was a stay-at-home dad, I wrote. I was never a great writer, but I sold enough articles to pay some of the bills. Doing so created a feeling of power in me.  That feeling and connectedness is important.  We should all remember that the modern stay-at-home parent  is a new  thing; they didn't exist outside the aristocracy until the early years of the  last century.
 
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March 25, 2006, 4:12 am PST

Learn from history?

 I am just "musing" but here goes. I am an avid reader of history related books. I am currently reading one titled, DIARIES OF WOMEN ON THE WESTWARD JOURNEY".  This is mostly diary entires of womens lot in life during the westward immagration ie the Oregon Trail and during the gold rush.   

  

One point that really stuck with me (besides the utter slavery and saddness and terrible lot in life the women had, especially no "choice" in the matter whether to go or not go) is this, these men uprooted their families (many of these women were pregnant with small children, or became pregnant on the journey and their small children died) all in the pursuit of gold or "free land".  

  

The men cared not if this journey literally killed the wives or children, all in the pursuit of gold, or material goods. The women that survived the journey (even if their children did not) often (in disgust at the lack of success these men had in actually finding gold) resorted to "womens work" like doing laundry cooking, running hotels (which were no more than food and a dry piece of ground to sleep on) and other such things (yes some resorted to prostitution, when their "dreamer" husbands got themselves killed) to survive. Many of these women made hundred of times more money doing this meaninless "womans work" than did the gold seeking men. Quite a few women ended up rich (monetarily anyway) from the small tasks like washing and cooking, and became VERY successfull business women, while the gold seeking husbands went broke, died, left them or gave up and went back east.  

  

The women did this while tending seven or more children, caring for sick husbands, pregnant, nursing AND raising MORE children.  

  

Some couples did stay alive and together. Those were the couples that pooled their resources, used their noodles and those that were open to changing and adapting to whatever their circumstances were at the time. Their teamwork, and adaptability became their best tools for survival.  

  

Women had no rights, were thought of as property, and "second class to men".  All men have to eat however, and some wanted to be civilized by sometimes having clean clothes.  They were willing to pay these women for these necessicities and comforts.  

  

I know there are a multitude of lessons here, as there always are, in our history as men and women on this planet. Seems to me we are going backward, in the evolution of men and women.  

  

These people were too busy trying to survive, to worry about who did what, or who owned what.  

Times being what they are financially, seems we could all learn from history.  

 
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