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(Original Air Date: 10/28/05) Being a mom is hard enough, but imagine juggling soccer, PTA meetings, homework and carpools all while trying to cover up a secret life of drug addiction. Dr. Phil follows up with some moms who say they were junkies. Joani, a mother of two, couldn't get through a half hour without shooting up -- and she was a nurse in a drug rehabilitation center! It's been six months -- how is she now? Then, Stephanie was addicted to Vicodin and took 60 times the recommended dosage every day. She's been clean for four months, but now has a new problem. Plus, a viewer inspired by Stephanie checks herself into rehab. Join the discussion.

 

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October 24, 2005, 2:43 pm CDT

10/28 Addicts Transformed

Quote From: maureennri

Hi, 

My name is Maureen.  I am an recovering addict.  I have 10 years clean. I was addicted to meth.  I snorted it, smoked it and slammed it. 

  

 I am now a school bus driver, and the mother of a wonderful 11 year old that I adore.  I am going to school to get my degree in drug and alcohol counseling.  My dream is to open a residential treatment center here in Arizona for women and there children.  There is nothing to speak of here, and I would like to give back a little of what was given to me.  I look back at the whole mess as a waste of a lot of years, 5 different treatment centers, 15 years of getting high, a lot of time in and out of jail, but it was also a learning experience.  Now I know what my calling is.  I also know that I like myself, and my life, I also love waking up clean and sober everyday. 

Hi Maureen.  I am from canada and work in a drug addictions clinic.  I have been here just over a year. Congradulations on being clean for 10 years.  There are more clinics opening up around here.  But there is more that needs to be done.  I wish you luck in opening your center.   

Carol 

 
October 24, 2005, 7:25 pm CDT

Me Too

Quote From: honibear28

Boy Dr. Phil did you hit on a very good topic!   

  

I am a Registered Nurse with a suspended license due to my addiction to prescription pain medication.  As with every pill popper, I began taking this medication for a legitimate disease, endometriosis.  But with each passing day the desire to feel that "good feeling" became more and more intense, until I found that I was actually MAKING UP PAIN to get more pain medication.  This lasted for about 5 years and within that 5 years I was a "functioning" mom who took her son to Boy Scouts, parent teacher conferences, grocery shopped...all the things that "Mom's Do".  Then I hit bottom!  I found a job that I absolutely loved, but also found that this hospital was not "up-to-date" with their narcotic drug dispensing.  I "figured out" how to steal patients pain meds.  I did my job well, no one could tell that I was high but the addiction took over and I got sloppy with "covering my tracks."  The desire to be high was so consuming that it never occured to me that maybe, just maybe there was someone that was on to me.   

  

I've been clean for over a year now, but unfortunately was in a horrible car accident in which I needed to be on pain medications.  Now I am back to struggling with the cravings, the trying to get it somehow, someway, but I know that I have to be strong and resist the temptation.   

  

Due to the diversion (prescription drug fraud) I am on a year of probation, facing a Felony 6 drug conviction.  Had a plea agreement in which I would do this probation, remain drug free and after a year my charge would be dropped to a misdemeanor.  In the meantime, the State of Virginia Board of Nursing has suspended my license indefinitely; I'm unable to try get it back for at least 2 years.  Then I'm sure that there will be strict conditions put on my ability to practice nursing, IF i'm even granted re-instatement after the first try.   

  

I have disappointed my children, actually do not even have physical custody of my children due to my addiction.  They were not taken away from me, but I voluntarily gave them to their father.  My addiction got to the point that I could no longer parent my babies.  My 11 year old calls that time in my life "when you were on the crazy pills."  CRAZY is NOT EVEN the word for it!  INSANITY is what I call it.  I have disappointed so many people in my life over this, but again I know that I cannot keep beating myself up for this forever.  There comes a time when not only do I have to ask those I hurt for forgiveness but to have forgiveness for myself.  Without that I do not think that staying clean is possible. 

  

I just wanted to add to the story that will be showing up on Friday, of which I am DEFINITELY going to watch.  Thank you for addressing this important topic, because there are so many of us out there that do not know where to turn or even how to admit to ourselves  or someone else that we have this addiction problem.  There is help and all it takes is to ask. 

  

Marni 

Hi Marni 

I wanted you to know that I was a nurse too and found myself addicted to pain pills, although I started my addiction without any physical pain--all emotional!! I will be up for my license here in Nov of 05--not even sure I am ready--although I have been sober for almost 2 years--scared!! I hope i am home to watch fridays show..I wish you all the best..I know how it is when your in a program--I was lucky and had an oppportunity to have my felonies dismissed and im glad that I had that chance!!.................Heidi 

 
October 25, 2005, 9:30 pm CDT

Re: extended victims of addiction

 This is a difficult subject, but one that needs to be exposed, and talked about. I also think that a show needs to be added to this one about what this addiction does to the people who need the pain killers and can't get them because of being accused of being a "junkie". 

   This happened to me. I was rear ended in a car crash, and suffered unbearable back and neck injuries. It took eleven years to get a diagnosis of what I had, and then I received several corrective surgeries. But during the eleven years, while experiencing excruciating low back pain, leg numbness, neck and back spasms, migrains, and numbness and weakness in my right arm, I could not get anything for pain relief without being given the third degree by doctors. Many nights I ended up in the ER, to try to get the pain relieved. I would be given a prescription for Motrin. It's been 27 years now, and I haven't know one day without pain. But, I do thank God that I finally found a specialist in pain and it's being managed much better now. But the years of suffering was almost too much to bear.  

   I don't understand how these people GET the pain killers, and all the drugs that they get. It just baffles me. Do they really understand HOW many people they really affect? 

Dede7007 

 
October 26, 2005, 9:33 pm CDT

Selfish

Quote From: dede7007

 This is a difficult subject, but one that needs to be exposed, and talked about. I also think that a show needs to be added to this one about what this addiction does to the people who need the pain killers and can't get them because of being accused of being a "junkie". 

   This happened to me. I was rear ended in a car crash, and suffered unbearable back and neck injuries. It took eleven years to get a diagnosis of what I had, and then I received several corrective surgeries. But during the eleven years, while experiencing excruciating low back pain, leg numbness, neck and back spasms, migrains, and numbness and weakness in my right arm, I could not get anything for pain relief without being given the third degree by doctors. Many nights I ended up in the ER, to try to get the pain relieved. I would be given a prescription for Motrin. It's been 27 years now, and I haven't know one day without pain. But, I do thank God that I finally found a specialist in pain and it's being managed much better now. But the years of suffering was almost too much to bear.  

   I don't understand how these people GET the pain killers, and all the drugs that they get. It just baffles me. Do they really understand HOW many people they really affect? 

Dede7007 

Dede7007- Im sorry about the way you were affected by all the "abusers" out their. But I can tell you how these people get the meds. My aunt and her boyfriend are addicted to pain killers and they take so much more than the recommended dosage on a daily basis. They simply go to the emergency room, give a sob story and poof. And if that doesnt work they go see their family doctor and tell them about it and get the meds from them .Other wise they buy them from people who sell them or steal them from people like my grandmother or my mother in law who suffered from more serious illnesses. And personally I can say from experience they dont care who they hurt and how they ruin it for everyone. Pretty selfish huh? 

 
October 26, 2005, 9:43 pm CDT

other side

I am on the otherside of the story. My mother is an addict of exactly what I can't say for sure. I do know that she drinks and smokes both cigs and marijuana and on occassion have seen other stuff still not sure of what. When I was 11 my father, the love of her life committed suicide. She couldn't cope and raise the 6 of us so she went on drinking binges sometimes for weeks on end. I would stay home and raise the other 5 kids in my home, untill one day she didnt come home and the state took us away. She still on her path of distruction and I am now 21, married with 3 children that she barely sees. It hurts to know that she choose that path, I loved my father too, and have hit rock bottom quite a few times since she left, and I now only drink on occassion, dont smoke anything and take great care of my kids. I guess I can say I learned from her mistakes, even if shes not ready to.
 
October 27, 2005, 7:24 am CDT

Reality Hits

Quote From: luciawells

"I'm not saying I'm addicted to it but it does help me get through the day...[but when I don't do it I'm really cranky..." It's clear that you are indeed an addict, but only you can make that final determination in order to help yourself. I have been addicted to pain medication for over ten years, starting like another writer, because of endometriosis. When I began taking the pills, I never would have called myself an addict; it was only after I suffered withdrawal, jail time, loss of job and self esteem that I realized that I was a hard core addict. I hope that you won't have to experience more than yelling at your kids in order to know the truth about yourself. I'm still addicted to these things even after entering myself into treatment several times; every time, however, I've gone back to using. It's an insidious disease that I wouldn't wish on anyone. Lucia

I am very sorry to tell you this, but you are an addict. There is no way around that subject. I watch my brother struggle with Meth. I have been to many seminars and am very educated. Meth addiction has a 98% return rate. More than 98% of people who get treatment for Meth addiction continue to be addicted. My mother and I are coming to the point of possibly removing his children from his home because his fiancee does not have anything to say about his addiction. I am sure that he thinks it helps him "get things done" and "mellow out" but all it does is make him more moody. It is a very noticeable addiction. Please help yourself before it is too late. Sooner than later someone else is going to notice your addiction and I would hate to see your kids removed from your home because Meth has become more important.  Mandolynn 

 
October 27, 2005, 9:53 am CDT

addict

Quote From: luciawells

"I'm not saying I'm addicted to it but it does help me get through the day...[but when I don't do it I'm really cranky..." It's clear that you are indeed an addict, but only you can make that final determination in order to help yourself. I have been addicted to pain medication for over ten years, starting like another writer, because of endometriosis. When I began taking the pills, I never would have called myself an addict; it was only after I suffered withdrawal, jail time, loss of job and self esteem that I realized that I was a hard core addict. I hope that you won't have to experience more than yelling at your kids in order to know the truth about yourself. I'm still addicted to these things even after entering myself into treatment several times; every time, however, I've gone back to using. It's an insidious disease that I wouldn't wish on anyone. Lucia
The first step to addiction is admitting you have a problem. Obviously you are not there yet so I'm not going to judge and sit here and tell you you have a problem. If you have to use to get thru the day then that is a warning sign. Before you say over and over again that you're not addict...wear the term for a day and see if it fits...maybe it will be a realization point.
 
October 27, 2005, 10:11 am CDT

i have lost a son to drugs

Quote From: clrem03

Dede7007- Im sorry about the way you were affected by all the "abusers" out their. But I can tell you how these people get the meds. My aunt and her boyfriend are addicted to pain killers and they take so much more than the recommended dosage on a daily basis. They simply go to the emergency room, give a sob story and poof. And if that doesnt work they go see their family doctor and tell them about it and get the meds from them .Other wise they buy them from people who sell them or steal them from people like my grandmother or my mother in law who suffered from more serious illnesses. And personally I can say from experience they dont care who they hurt and how they ruin it for everyone. Pretty selfish huh? 

anyone that knows someone that is a drug addict needs to do what ever it takes to get there loved on off i drugs.  i didnt and tried tough love on my son.  during his addiction you name he done it.  i could no longer help him so we told him to find another place to live.  he was bring his little brother into it and i felt like i need to at least same one of them so we told my son to come home.  well he didnt even make it the weekend.  He died in the back of a firends car.  and his firends didnt even know he had passed away.  they just left him there to sleep it off.  even in the morning when it was time to go to school his firend didnt know he died.  he still left him in the car and it took someone else to say hey whats wrong with chad.  are you crazy?  your driving around with him and he is dead!  My point is drug users have no logic to anything.  but we have to do what ever it takes before they hit bottom.  because for my son hitting bottom was being 10feet under.  i fell very quilty everyday that i didnt do anything. but try tought love. thats for the birds.  do what ever it takes!!!  Friends do not let friends overdose!!! forever chad will be in my heart.  Karen
 
October 27, 2005, 4:26 pm CDT

you are an addict

  You only have to you meth 3 times to become addicted to it!!!! 

 I was addicted to meth for 5 years, so I should know what it takes to become an addict. 

 I lost jobs friends homes cars, my family's trust and worst of all i almost lost my daughter. 

I got the help i needed and have been clean for 2 years.   

I have seen meth destroy the lives and minds of lots of people of all ages and social status' in my town.  using it to ge thru the day is a clear sign of an addict and i strongly recommend tha you seek help before it starts to destroy everything  and everybody you llove and then your mind 

 
October 27, 2005, 7:16 pm CDT

tweekmama?

Quote From: tweekmama

I'm a 39 year old mom that has been in a marriage for 20 years and for the last 10 years have had alot of ups and downs lprobably more downs, I've been finacially struggling and have had alot of issues to deal with and was around some people who was doing Meth well need I say anymore I'm not saying I'm addicted to it but it does help me get through the day alot of times.  I do notice that when I don't do it I'm really cranky even though I don't really notice alot of times that I snap at my kids.  My husband don't know.  I truly hate that I ever touched the stuff but I get so much done.  I'm truly know how these people feel.  I'm not a addict and I don't ever want to become one and have to go to rehab. God Bless to all

I think your "tweekmama" signature says it all!  If you don't need to say you are addicted, but if it helps you get through the day... I'd say you have a BIG problem.  My son wasn't too bad for the first 10 years of being a "tweeker"  It was the next 10 years that took a toll on his brain.  He is now in prison.  During those first 10 years, I thought he could turn it around... but he choose to continue down the path, into a world I never imagined would exist for him. 

  

You are kidding yourself if you think you don't have a problem.  I'm sure the reason you wrote in the first place is because deep down you KNOW something is wrong.  You "snap at your kids" and you husband "don't know".  Sounds like a recipe for disaster.   

  

GET SOME HELP NOW WHILE YOU STILL HAVE BRAIN CELLS AVAILABLE! 

 
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