Topic : 01/05 "Am I Cursed?"

I hope next time Dr Phil does another show on the topic of "being cursed" I hope he includes an expert on the SUBJECT of PROBABILITY.  Often when a person considers all the factors involved and how each of the factors affect one another - the results are not so surprising.   

  

Some of my favorite books on the subject of LOTS OF WAYS WE CURSE OURSELVES, that may be of interest to you:   

  

Emotional Blackmail:  When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You by Susan Forward 

  

Why is it Always about You?  The Seven Deadly Sins of ...  by Sandy Hotchkiss  

  

Surviving a Borderline Parent:  How to Heal Your Childhood Wounds and Build Trust, Boundaries and Self-Esteem (Self-Worth)  

  

Behind the Masks:  Personality Disorders in Religious Behavior by Wayne E. Oates  

  

The above books are my favorites for approaches to combining modern psychiatry, the wisdom of the Bible and dynamics of family systems. 

  

Hope it helps! 

  

  

  

  

  

It is really annoying when folks copy the whole message, type in red, bold or don't use spell check--Internet courtesy!  I suppose one can just say if you don't like it, don't read it.  I am concerned about this subject, therefore I want to know how others feel.  I digress, the point is, a man wrote the bible.  I suppose the only thing that God wrote was the 10 Commandments.  Moses wrote that first book of the bible.   Moses wrote Exodus.  Moses penned it.  He was educated by Egyptians.  Educated men were chosen to pen the bible.  Just as Matthew, a tax collector, was chosen by Jesus as an apostle--he was an educated man. 

  

Quote from ssword:   

     I'm telling you guys that there is zero chance the scriptures originated from a human   

     mind and therefore zero chance it is some fake legend.  I am 100% positive it was    

     penned down by non other than God Himself. 

  

As for being 100%  true.  Think of it logically, did Jonah really survive 3 days in a fish?  Was  the entire world flooded?  Was the earth flat?  The answer to all questions is no.  These stories were about the known world and the knowledge of the author at that time in which it was written.  Knowledge of  world increased and increases daily.   

i realize that thismay not have much to do with the show, but,there has been proof of this in the past that the rock and roll world may be cursed of jinxed. i say this because at least two if not more singers have died on a tuesday. the two are elvis presley and john lennon. i believe with john lennon he was shot on a monday but, i think may have died early tuesday morning. i know that most people heard about it on tuesday. i am sure there are others but i cannot think of them. anyone that has a comment on this can e mail me at geo2424@twcny.rr.com thanks  george

But cursed by your own words, for with the mouth you bring either cursing or blessing, death or life, positive or negative. If you believe you have a curse upon you then you are speaking that curse often. But if you would give your life to Jesus and get in the Word of God yourself, you would gain the power to speak God's Word into your life and you would see these devils flee. I watched the show and the scripture that kept coming to mind is Philemon 1:6. (Philem 6
6 That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.
KJV) 

To communicate your faith is to speak it. That is the first act of faith. And faith in God's Word comes only by hearing and hearing and hearing, and when you get tired of hearing hear some more. Then it goes on to say that your faith may become effectual (have effect or have power) by acknowledging(speaking outloud) every good thing which is in you, because you are in Christ Jesus. When you accept Jesus as Lord and repent (turn from sin and follow Christ, or be a doer of the Word and not a hearer only) of your sin, you are engrafted into the body of Christ. And are immediately authorized to use His name. You are immediately authorized to speak His Word and receive power from on high. The Power of God is in the message of the cross and what Jesus accomplished by the shedding of His blood. You are to acknowledge what the Word says about you not what the devils say to you or about you. It doesnt matter what you see think or feel, God's Word is more true. Examples are found in every city. Doctors diagnose ppl with cancer. Telling ppl to go home and die. Ppl pray for them and they still live. Ive seen ppl with brain tumors walk out of service healed. Seen ppl with stomach cancer healed at the touch of my hands. Hallelujah!  

I know you cant go on national TV and speak the truth of God's Word to the folks listening. You'd be laughed at, ridiculed and persecuted. But He is watching also, so Ill do it here for you. Be Blessed!
 

 I am a little late to this message but i did watch the show and I do believe a "supernatural" state exists.  I noticed a lot of you ladies are Christian's as I am.  The supernatural is often mentioned in the bible. Not in the sense of ghosts or the paranormal but in the sense that the miracles Jesus performed were "supernatural" , not of this world but of God.   I saw some of the posts and replies and it looks as if this has become a Christian battleground and the true nature of this topic got lost.  The true nature is what people believe.  I believe in God and Jesus and I also believe that demons exist.   I had the exact same experiences as Holly.  I believe they were demonic attacks.  I had nightmares about evil and often felt as is there were something evil/ demonic in my home mostly in my bedroom.  I would often wake up in the middle of the night in stark terror because i could feel something under my covers at the foot of my bed or my bed would be shaking and wake me up.  I felt an awful presence of evil sometime pressing me down into my mattress. I would often talk in my sleep telling the demons to get out of my room in the name of Jesus.  I recorded myself talking in my sleep with a voice activated recorder and I said strange things and spoke in a different voice. It was scary to hear.  I go to church and read my bible and I felt as if I was under demonic attack. The more I lived my life for the Lord the more I was attacked and terrified.  I prayed all of the time for protection but it seemed as if it would never end.  This has been going on for years with me.  I spoke to my minister about this and he also believed I was being attacked by demons who wanted to turn me from Christ.  I did not get any relief until I was cleaning out my closet and found the crucifix my  Mother  received as a gift on her wedding day to my father.  She had given it to me years ago but I never put it up because the Jesus figure had fallen off.  I remember that cross being above my parents bed as I was growing up.  She only took it down when the Jesus figure had fallen off and she could not get it to stay on.  I knew as I held it that cross it was the answer to my night terrors and demonic attacks.  I hung that cross above my bed because I knew that even without the Jesus figure on it , it was still powerful and had the ability to shield me from the torment I received during the night.  It had been blessed by a priest and it is Holy.  This was about six months ago.  I can say that I have not been attacked nor have I felt anything evil in my room since then.  I cried when Dr. Phil told Holly to hang a cross above her bed because that is what I had done and it worked.  I feel safe and protected sleeping under the symbol of our Lord's death and knowing he was resurrected and LIVES.  I urge all of you Chrisitan ladies who come out fighting against the people who post who don't believe in Jesus to quietly pray for that person to someday find the Lord.  Sometimes it is the quiet that speaks the loudest.  If Holly is reading this then I send you many blessings and  pray for a hedge of protection to always be around you.  Put up the cross.  Mine looks beautiful and reminds me everyday who I belong to.  God Bless all of you who post on this board.

   Sharon Truely is a beautiful, sweet soul. It's too bad that almost nobody on this board has shown even a worm's share of compassion for her. I've had this phenomenon happen before to me, but I'm a skeptic. Don't believe in mirrors or Tuesdays. It all comes down to your patterns of thinking. When I was small, I would actually see things in my room at night--all kinds of stuff. As you fall into a state of fear, your mind locks into a habbit of forming patterns in both the physical environment or the events of your day--or even your life--and it is very hard to break. The phenomenon happened to me a few times before, but once the paranoia is healed, it has always vanished. It is unfortunate that Phil himself did nothing much but confirm to Sharon her worst fears on the show, saying that the phenomenon is real when it ain't. 

   But it is unfortunate in the extreme that the Christians on this board have done nothing but condemn her. You have told her she deserves hell, that she's godless and deserves the "curse".  This message is evil and black and proves that you don't care at all, not one bit. There isn't even a token of compassion in your words. The fact that it was a Christian maniac who brought this whole thing to Sharon, and the fact that your message is hateful and anti-semetic, proves that YOU are her curse. You have done nothing but damage. 

   If anyone out there...anyone?...REALLY gives a care for her sweet soul, Please forward this message to her; let her see it somehow. 

   Sharon: When I saw your face, I felt infinite compassion. I cried like I never have before deep inside when I saw your precious face in so much pain. 

   Sharon: there is no separation. Your face is that of the All-Beautiful Itself. I feel soul love for you like I do with God so close to me. I have been called upon to give you this message: 

   YOU ARE ONE WITH GOD 

   I know it to be true, for I have experienced the Oneness so many times. I've danced with joy in this God of Love. Know that you are God. Remember it as truth even when it feels so sad inside you. Know that you are God. This is the ultimate meaning of life. 

   Your face is the most beautiful thing I have ever imagined. Love yourself. Love yourself. 

   As I am currently a hospice patient, I am sure it is no coincidence that I have been compelled to help save you from this false nightmare with this teaching. If you would like to contact me, please E-mail me at forceit_229@yahoo.com BEFORE FEBRUARY 1st. Light and many beings of love are all that really surround you, Sharon. God has said so. God is Love. 

Countrycow, nice to hear from you again..........it is always entertaining.

I have tried several times to post my thoughts about Sharon but apparently if you dissagree with the doc the odds of your posts going up are pretty slim. 

  

I felt the last thing Sharon needed was to be told(more or less)to hang a crucifix over her bed.  With all the abuse she has suffered at the hands of the religious, I truley think this was the wrong message to send.  Sharon herself was speaking of feeling less of a person, guilt, fear, shame.  All the typical feelings of one who has suffered abuse as a child.  She also spoke of how after watching the docs show it had helped her to see that perhaps her feelings were false.  I was struck dumb hearing the doc tell her to seek spiritual/religious counsel and his mentioning of hanging crucifixes.  I certainly thought he would have gone into the all the left over feelings of children who suffer abuse and how her feelings were normal and incredibly typical of such abuses.  I never heard that once!  My personal opinion is he failed in that regard.  I think these are the things Sharon wanted to hear about, not crucifixes for the love of God!  (pun intended)  I also feel that this type of counsel would be far more beneficial for someone in her position, suffering all she did at the hands of religion, then any amount of religious/spiritual counseling could be.  She needed to be told what happened was not her fault, she owned no blame, that there was absolutley no reason for any excorcisim as she was a lovely, sweet, beautiful child with no "evil living inside of her", and her being put through such an ordel at the tender age of seven would most assuredly cause all the feeling she has carried from that moment on.   

  

Instead,   I heard about hanging crucifixes and quite frankly, it still floors me!  Maybe its just me, but I expect more from a doctor of psychology when being presented with this type thing.  Just as I  expected to hear about all the possible physical/psychological explainations of Hollys dream life.  Instead,  I heard about shamans and hanging mirrors in her bedroom.  Mirrors!   Good grief! 

I got Sharons age wrong.  She was 9 when she was forced to go through an excorcism.  Not that I think two years makes one bit of difference.  It still explains all her feelings of guilt, fear, and shame. 

  

And before I get a rebuttal post from countrycow explaining how all Sharon needs is to accept Jesus into her heart, please allow me to continue with my thoughts on this.  

  

 Like Sharon, I too was abused at the hands of the religious.  Not near as drastic as her, but still...  Like all abuse survivors, I too felt the fear guilt and shame.  For years and years and years and years.  No amount of religious counsel ever took that completley away.    The only way I was ever able to heal was with psychological help.  Understanding my feelings.  Learning why I had them.  Knowing I was not alone.  Learning how to change my thinking and how to heal.  Being told over and over and over again, until it finally started sinking in, that I was not evil.  I was a child!  An innocent!  Just as Sharon was.  Even worse for Sharon, not only did she carry the burden of childhood abuse by thinking she was bad and unworthy and filled with guilt fear and shame, she was TOLD she was all these things by a religious power.  Her father.  

  

 She needs to be UNtold all of this.  Over and over and over, by someone who wont get into all the possible "evil" in the world, but who will stick with the psychological effects children who are abused are left to suffer with.  If after all of this, she still has a desire to seek out religous/ spiritual help, then by all means!  But at this point, I for one, think poor Sharon has been put through enough at the hands of religion and is now in need of one hell(again~pun intended) of a good psychologist.  JMO