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Topic : 01/19 Follow-ups

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Created on : Friday, January 13, 2006, 02:25:30 pm
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Dr. Phil revisits some of his most amazing stories of the season. First, Tim and Anne Marie were desperate to save their mother, Sylvia, who was constantly talking to the voices in her head. After 10 weeks of treatment, see the inspirational turn Sylvia has taken. What will she say when she meets Dr. Phil face to face? Then, just over a month ago, two women told Dr. Phil how they fell victim to alleged con man and bigamist Ed Hicks. See how their story helped another woman and brought Hicks into police custody. Plus, 18-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared last May during a senior class trip to the island of Aruba. Dr. Phil is joined by Natalee’s mother, Beth, her lawyer, and a consultant to the Aruban government who defends the work of the investigators. Have there been new revelations since the last time Beth appeared on the show? Could rescuers be on the brink of finding the missing teen? Talk about the show here.

 

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January 19, 2006, 10:59 pm PST

tourist dollars

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The crime has not been solved according to the Office of the Attorney General in Aruba. This country and its legal head office need a wake up call. When North Americans bring their money into the economy of Aruba they do so expecting a fair shake. Natalee is not the issue here. The process of an individuals right to life is what seems to be the problem. When you stick your hand out for the Lincoln and Jefferson image on that little piece of paper there has got to be some accountability and fair transaction. Stop feeding the mouth that bites you comes to mind here. Thats what a boycot does..

living in a state that relies heavily on tourist dollars I would like to remind those in favor of Boycott that Tourism works both ways... There are those of us here in America that depend on tourist dollars for our lively hood. We here in Florida have been boycotted by European tourists and others,  when a rash of violence against foreign tourists who were murdered at rest stops along our American highways and in our cities (Miami) took place right here in,  yes,  this self-righeous county. 

 In this state we have Thousands of foreign property owners, who vacation here and pay taxes on their properties. Should these people Boycott the USA (Florida) we here would suffer great financial loss. People losing jobs, homes etc etc.  

America is more violent than many countries ( that are tourist destineations).  For many of the crimes committed on the tourists visiting here this state (country) could not provide answers, reasons, perpetrators etc. to families of those dead and injured. Think about the families (mothers, childrens etc) who WE could not give answers...... 

 
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January 19, 2006, 11:14 pm PST

and is America any diffrent??

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I am extremely worried about any visitor to an island like Aruba.  They advertize a beautiful paradise for fun and relaxation.  How could anyone have fun and relax, in a place where thier authorities treat thier tourists with no more respect than they have treated ,Natalee Holloway, her mother and her country. 

I DO AGREE, WE NEED TO BOYCOTT ANY AMERICANS TRAVELING TO ARUBA ! 

ALSO ANY AMERICAN GAME SHOW'S SHOULD STOP GIVING FREE TRIPS TO ARUBA! 

DR. PHIL IF YOU,  OPERA,   MONTELL,  ELLEN,  DAVE,  JAY,  REGIS,  OR  ANYOTHER  PERSON WITH YOUR POWERS, BOND TOGETHER....PUT THE HEAT ON  Auba !  

 

  

When you visit Florida We advertise a "fun paradise relaxing visit"  to a "magical world"..... 

You can still be raped, robbed, murdered, car-jacKed, kid-napped, held hostage in your Motel room minutes away from Theme parks, etc right here in Magical Florida...USA 

  

Now here in Florida authorities attempt to find your perpertrator but no guarantee is given, Just like the weather should you come for a visit and we have a hurricane, no guarantee... 

  

When someone American or from the planet Pluto travels into another country The traveler is the visitor and should act accordingly.... The only paradise is in the after life, not anywhere on earth. 

When you are in another country, you are exactly that, in another country, where they may or may not do things just like in America.... Where you do not get a guarantee.... 

 
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January 19, 2006, 11:36 pm PST

Boycott Aruba

  

Like a lot of viewers I found the "Special Advisor" to Aruba to be very disturbing: 

  

What bothered me? 

  

- his media announcement  (over key holiday tourism period) of upcoming interrogation, then delay and then no questioning of boys at all ... appears transparently dishonest because at some point he found out it was not true and said nothing publicly to correct his misleading statements. 

  

- he was stalling / spinning this out over time to avoid boycott / defuse American anger toward Aruba  

  

- his agenda is as clear as his paycheck (i.e: Tourism dollars not Justice for missing girl) 

  

- what is he doing "personally" unlocking the jail cells?  (bizarre - he has no legal standing)?  

  

- promising  "information" in a few weeks that will resolve the case, another roller coaster play with the family's emotions, another stall attempt that is equally as trustworthy as his "interrogation" promise. 

  

- what is a Tourism lobbyist doing with all this legal information that the family doesn't have? 

  

Dutch citizens and other foreign posters are evading the REAL issue  - this situation has not been investigated properly, communication with family has been very poor, and the "Special Advisor" has been hired to stall and delay to avoid the Aruba boycott over the xmas holiday season.   

  

Innocent until proven guilty is fine, but at a minimum there is enough evidence to charge the boys with obstruction of justice.  Yet they were all allowed to leave leave Aruba. 

  

As a Canadian, I know the US is not perfect, US foreign policy is often selfish and selfserving, and the US deosn't search for missing foreigners enough.  But focus on THIS case - here Aruba is wrong, the US family is right and the "Special Advisor" appears to be dishonest, stalling and motivated by tourism dollars not justice for the missing girl. 

  

Dr. Phil should have called the Special Advisor on his stalling tactics more than he did. 

  

Dr. Phil should continue the call for a boycott of Aruba, it is only way to pressure Aruba into doing anything. 

  

 

Boycott Aruba. 

 

  

 

 

 
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January 20, 2006, 2:54 am PST

01/19 Follow-ups

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I can't believe I heard what Dr. Phil said, that there is help for mentally ill people in our country.  Yes there is help if you have money, privet insurance, or get on the Dr. Phil show.  Most mentally ill people do not have money, most have never been able to hold a job to get privet insurance, and well I do not think Dr. Phil can have them all on his show.   

  

As an adult child of a parent who has this illness and has lived with it all her life I do apperciate the positive outlook on the illness, but lets face it we need to change in the USA and provide better care for the mentally ill.  My mother is Okay, but thats all just Okay, the system keeps her from totally losing her mind but if I or we had money I know she could be fully functunal.  Lets not pretend that the help is there if people ask for it, it is not. 

Sadly, you are absolutely right. Most people with serious mental illness will never get help beyond the most basic  pill-pushing.
 
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January 20, 2006, 3:51 am PST

I am finally getting it...

After yesterdays show I see the cover-up that's going on in Aruba.  It's crystal clear.  Aruban Gov't is hiding some dirty stuff like being involved in sex slave trade.  I'll bet the Gov't is promoting it.  I think there's a lot they are working very hard to hide.  They are creating illusions to try to hide behind.  Even this last "search" near the lighthouse.  That was supposed to make them look like they are still trying to find Natalee.  I will bet they know where she is.  This is January.  It's time for Aruba to get ready for tourist season.  I will bet they make huge efforts to find Natalee in the coming months before Spring Break and summer.  It is a big deception.  It is all for show.  To draw the masses.  Don't buy it. 

  

Has the thought crossed anyone's mind that Paulus Vandersloot and Karin may be involved (love affair).  Why did Karin go on Vacation so early in the investigation last year?  What was she afraid of to make her run away like that? 

 
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January 20, 2006, 4:31 am PST

Aruba's Answer to Ms. Holloway

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OK, we've tired of all the time-wasting and posturing by the Aruban authorities. We know the main suspect's father is WELL CONNECTED and most likely involved in the coverup - The search team asked him politely if they could scan the underlayment of his back yard - which would end all suspicion of his physical involvement and clear his name - he refused. That search team and others noticed FRESH CONCRETE in his backyard! Get real people...My wife lived on the islands, and I've visited Aruba. The going motto there is " it's not my job man ". Prospective tourists need to know that their security is not a major priority of the country they chose as a vacation destination.  

  

What you can do: BE PROACTIVE - contact CRUISE LINES and CRUISE ASSOCIATIONS and let them know the facts re: Aruba, and how you feel about a company or group that still endorses travel there. Contact Travel Agent Associations and all your local travel agents with your feelinigs. I'll give you a jumpstart on some contacts. Let's work together to make justice count! 

  

1) ASTA ( American Society of Travel Agents ) email: askasta@astahq.com   and/or call 703-739-2782  Fax: 703-684-8319 

2)NACTA ( National Association of Commissioned Travel Agents ) email: nacta@aol.com  tel: 703-739-6826  Fax: 703-739-6861 

3)ARTA ( Association of Retail Travel Agents ) 800-969-6069   Fax: 615-985-0600   

4)CLIA ( Cruise Line International Assoc. )  To contact:  www.cruiseassoc.com/forms/form.html/?id=16 or cut and past this address onto your browser. 

  

There are many more Travel/Tour Associations you can Google also.  We know Natalie Holloway may never be found. We also know true justice may only be realized by hurting the Aruban government and that of the Netherlands with the only thing they understand - Financial Leverage.  

  

Please give a few minutes to Natalie's cause and you'll know you actively took part in honoring her remembrance. SPEAK OUT and let travel institutions know a TOTAL BOYCOTT of Aruba, and education to travellers of Aruba's justice system is the right thing to do.    I did. 

  

  

Note Marketing strategy and spin and stance taken officially. Be warned, it's slick and professional. 

 

 

  

  

http://www.aruba.com/holloway/index.htm 

  

  

Then respond, in kind, to some official tourism websites and pass them on to your email addresses to do the same. 

  

http://www.aruba.com/pages/contact.htm 

  

There is power in the pen as well as email.  Be informed when responding to this tragedy, not just emotional. Read both sites!   

 
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January 20, 2006, 4:32 am PST

More info needed

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watching the  show  today and wondering WHY we have not heard anything from the Schoolmates and chaperones on the School trip that Natalie was with? From all the interviewing and finger pointing demands and posturing Why has there been no information from the people that Beth entrusted her Daughter to and the Friends that her Daughter traveled with? Are they all exempt because they are Americans, Alabamians?  

I can not imagine what Beth and family and friends must be going through. I have lost a child not through violence, but any child lost leaves a hugh whole in your heart and soul. You never stop wondering what, why, what if....It must be hell for Beth but can you Demand that people ( 3 young men) be kept in Jail for undetermined amounts of time with NO evidence of guilt? Beth does deserve answers but how many Children are lost the very same way here in the USA everyday with no answers of who or why or how, with out the benefit of TV, lawyers, investigators, friends with private planes, etc. Demanding and threatening boycotts does not FIND the perpetrators or the answers. Again what do the kids on the trip and the Chaperones say? Why was Natalie out alone in a foreign country at night drinking with the locals??   Does Beth not deserve answers from those entrusted people too ????? 

I'd like to know answers to the questions you raised!
 
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January 20, 2006, 5:40 am PST

TO BETH TWITTY

Please can you contact me at angelamor_ont@yahoo.ca 

  

I may have a way of helping you. 

 
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January 20, 2006, 5:47 am PST

Sending off my email to Regis, please do so.

Quote From: arain2love

I just wrote a personal letter to the people at Regis and Kelly today, after watching Dr Phils show. On regis and Kelly they are actually giving away a trip to Aruba as a PRIZE! I feel it's disrespectful and told them so, politely of course :-) I asked them to remove the trip from their travel trivia wheel in respect for the Halloway family..  

 

I expect fully to be ignored by the show... but I at least took a stand 

Trish 

It only takes a minute to express your distaste to Regis' producers. Tell them you'll note their advertisers and also tell them your views. It appalls me that any nationally televised program would blatantly promote travel to a God-forsaken place like Aruba after all the facts we've all gathered regarding Natalee Holloway. JOIN ME in also writing Regis and Betty Boop and join hands in giving Natalee a voice she herself will sadly never have.    Here's the toll free number: 800-330-1106 ( " Live with Regis and Kelly )
 
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January 20, 2006, 6:13 am PST

What about the other girl?

I know the pain of losing a child, but don't know what it's like to be in limbo.  I do hope that something will be done & that they will get the results required for healing & moving on.   

  

I can understand that this is a recent event, so the best thing is to keep it in the light & not  let it fade into the background.  However, I can't help but wonder what happened to the other girl, on the previous show?  When they were talking about kidnappings & prostitution.  That girl that was taken from a cruise ship about 13 years ago & is assumed to be in the sex trade because of some pictures that look like her.  Along with the way that she was positioned to hide the tattoos that she had.  Is there any progress being done in her case?   

  

It would be wonderful to have these families findt he healing that they truely need!  My prayers are will you all! 

 
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