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(Original Air Date 02/08/06) We all love food, but some of us love it too much!  According to research, nine million Americans are morbidly obese. So when does the simple routine of eating turn deadly? Jazmyn weighs over 200 pounds -- and she’s only 11 years old. Her grandmother, Joan, complains that the little girl's own mother, Vicki, is responsible. Joan says Jazmyn eats fast food, junk food  and "manly-sized" portions. Can Jazmyn's young life be turned around? Then, 34-year-old Paul says his food addiction has taken over his life. At nearly 1,000 pounds, he is too big to bathe himself, dress himself, or use the bathroom without assistance. His mother, Loretta, is terrified he will die if drastic measures aren’t taken. Has she been enabling his eating habits?  Share your thoughts.

 

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February 9, 2006, 8:04 pm PST

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Hello, Thanks fir writing! 

  

I appreciate what you had to say.  May I add a little something? 

  

Many people's remarks talk about Jazmyn's self esteem and our appearance.  That's ok, I guess.  That's your point of view. 

  

My concern has little to do with beauty because to me beauty comes from within.  I've known many physically pretty people who are very vain and shallow and many physically plain or physically  unatrractive people who are angels walking on earth. 

  

My primary concern is Jazmyn's health.  Yes, her self image and her feelings are important to me.  I never trample on them contrary to what may have been said or portrayed.  I have walked many miles in her shoes and have deep empathy for what she is living through.  I suffer with her.  

  

 But after watching her as the years passed and seeing her increasing weight gain, and  agonizing as her ability to breathe and move freely decreased, it became more important to me to see her healthy than to be forced into silence for fear of hurting my daughter's feelings.  Something had to be done to save her life! 

  

So that is the reason I continued to bring up the subject of her weight with Vicki.  Also her doctor implored me on several occasions to talk with her mother about the health risks of her continuing to gain so much weight.   I did not rant or rave or carry on ad infinitum when I mentioned the need for Jazmyn to lose weight.  I hit it and quit it because I knew Vicki was very sensitive about the subject.  To her it probably seemed that I spoke about it all the time though what I actually did was to choose my opportunites and words very carefully so as not to make her angry or vengeful.  That didn't work so one time, after missing my grandaughter for months, when I got to see them again, I didn't say anything for a long time.  But I continued to hurt inside when I saw Jazmyn huffing and puffing just trying to put on her shoes or limping badly with a hurt ankle that wouldn't heal.    

  

Looking better and feeling better about herself is a positive byproduct of losing the weight, not the primary reason for it.  But the greatest gift of all is a healthier child and the extended years her mother and I can look forward to spending together watching her grow into a happy and fulfilled young woman, wife and mother, (if she chooses),  years that would have been spent in poor health as well as poor self image if things had gone along as they were. 

  

Joan 

  

  

I completely agree with you I have been big my whole life and it's not a beauty issue that I have problems with because I am beautiful inside and out no matter how big I get but I have a 1 yr old little boy and taking him to the park is a challange because I can't chase him around...  You don't want Jasmyn getting to that point and I completely understand that there are so many health problems assoiciated with being over weight and she is to young to have to be worried about those health problems...  The only really bad thing about being over weight at such a young age is not being able to do the other things children her age do and kids can be so cruel now a days picking on children who are what they see as "perfect" But Jasmyn is young and it should be no problem for her to get up and lose the weight before it gets anymore out of hand and my family and i as well as probably many others will have Jasmyn and your family in our prayers... God Bless<33333333
 
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February 9, 2006, 8:08 pm PST

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Jaszmyn needs someone to give her a big hug. It seems that the people around her are pointing there fingers at her about her wieght and seem to forget that there are 3 fingers pointing back at them. How unfair is it for them to be nagging at her about her weight when they are cleary all over weight? This child gets picked on at school about her outter appearence, and comes home to be reminded of it all over again. where can she escape this??? 

  

Watching the show I was disturbed when the mother kept making excuses as to why she couldn't do this or she couldn't do that. Basically it sounded like she was making excuses about not being able to fix the problem (can't make healthy lifestyle choices) other than ruining her daughters self esteem. The thing that came up the most was that the problem couldn't be fixed b/c of the lack of money. Which is a total load of crap. Do a little research and she would find that there is plenty she could do with in her budget. For example, the mom/grandma and Jazmyn could go for a walk around the neighborhood after dinner, or after work or whenever! 4 or 5 times a week (the weather looked nice where they lived!) and they would be spending time together as well as excersing. Some gyms (THE YMCA) have specific finacial programs for those who may not be able to afford the regualr membership, becasue the organization believes everyone in the community should have access. In regards to foods, The mother could do a little research (library, internet, etc) to see little things she could do in her everyday cooking to make the meals healthier, and try new recipes. (ie use olive oil instead of butter) these are all suggestions but my main point is, 

All it takes is a little effort and creativity! 

  

Anyways if by some fluke someone who knows Jazmyn reads this pass along the message that someone in Canada is rooting for you and it doesn't matter what size you are, what you look like your still a great person! GO JASMYN!!!! 

Hello, 

  

Thanks for your encouragemnent to Jazmyn.  Yes, she is a great person.    

However, her appearance and her personality are not at issue, her health is. 

  

About the pointing fingers at her, however, you couldn't be further from the truth.  I hope you take the time to read my posts.  They will help you better understand the situation with all of us. 

  

The reason Jazmyn's weight is as issue is because at age 11, she has crossed the 200 lb. mark and is in danger of health complications no child should be saddled with and it puts her future at risk.  

  

Although her mother and I are overweight as well, and need to lose weight for health reasons too, neither one of us crossed the 200 lb. mark until we were well into our adult years and had become mothers ourselves.   As a child, Jazmyn's weight problem must be controlled otherwise her adult years will see her much heavier than we are, at least as much as 600 pounds or more!  

  

 
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February 9, 2006, 8:17 pm PST

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Paul, 

Look this is a very tough road you have ahead, as you already know, but just remember this saying "Diamonds are made under pressure!"  I wish you the best of luck young man, I to have been very over weight at 350 pounds.  I have, with the help of Dr. Phil's Book, but I have become permanently disabled.  And because of my disability, which is RSD a pain syndrome, which does not allow me to really walk around good.  When I do walk it is with a walker or crutches, and I am in constant pain.  So do to this depression, I have gained back about 35 to 40 pounds and feel helpless.  If you would like to correspond with me via email I would be glad to help you and maybe we can help each other through this.  My email address is brenden@proofofstock.com 

 
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February 9, 2006, 8:21 pm PST

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I completely agree with you I have been big my whole life and it's not a beauty issue that I have problems with because I am beautiful inside and out no matter how big I get but I have a 1 yr old little boy and taking him to the park is a challange because I can't chase him around...  You don't want Jasmyn getting to that point and I completely understand that there are so many health problems assoiciated with being over weight and she is to young to have to be worried about those health problems...  The only really bad thing about being over weight at such a young age is not being able to do the other things children her age do and kids can be so cruel now a days picking on children who are what they see as "perfect" But Jasmyn is young and it should be no problem for her to get up and lose the weight before it gets anymore out of hand and my family and i as well as probably many others will have Jasmyn and your family in our prayers... God Bless<33333333

Hello, 

  

Your compassion shows through your note.  I can see that you understand first hand what we are going through.  Thank you for your prayers and your support. 

  

Perhaps you too can be motivated, as a young mother, to begin your journey to health for your son's sake as well as your own...there is such a rich life waiting for you.  My obesity has caused the early onset of arthritis in both my knees.  There is so much I used to love to do that now is beyond my ability to do.  If I were younger, I would do whatever it takes to shed the extra pounds and prevent the loss of activities that brought me so much joy.  In that way, it's too late for me but it's not too late for you.  I will pray for you regularly. You have a beautiful and lovely spirit.  Don't let anything or anyone stop you from soaring like an eagle! 

  

God bless you! 

Joan 

 
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February 9, 2006, 8:44 pm PST

For Vicki and Joan, Helpful hints

Hi Joan and Vicki,  

I saw the show and knew exactly what Vicki was going through. I too am a single mom with an over weight 12 yr old son. I don't have a lot of advice to give, just some tips that might make things a little easier for Vicki because of her busy schedule.  I also have my son seeing a pediatric dietition, so he is on a balanced eating plan (1800 calories a day). I have also enrolled him in an excercise program that he does for 45 minutes twice a week. So far he has lost 8 pounds in the course of a month. Unfortunately my mom passed away 5 yrs ago, but I know if she were here, she would be saying the same things your mom is saying.  

 

 

 

Here are some things that I do on the weekends  to make my life easier during the week,  and to make sure he stays on his eating plan.  I peel and section about 6 oranges and put them in snack size zip lock baggies and keep them in the refrigerator. I put a half of a sectioned orange in each baggie, it fits perfect, and is a perfect serving size. With 6 oranges, you get 12 servings.  

 

I rinse off grapes and carrots and put them in individual snack size zip lock baggies too (about 15 to 20 per serving).  I try to buy as many kid friendly vegetables and rinse and cut them up in bite size pieces and put them in the snack size baggies as well. The ones that he prefers is red peppers (they are sweeter then green), baby carrots and celery. I usually cut the peppers and celery in sticks. Then I use Light Hidden Valley Ranch sour cream dip when we wants to snack on the veggies. I keep that in a container in the refridgerator.  I also buy skim string cheese, and let him have that with a fruit after school for a snack.  Whenever I buy watermelon or any kind of melon. I cut it up in bite size pieces and either put it in the serving size baggies, or in a container in the refridgerator depending on how much time I have.  It really makes my life easier during the week when I'm in a hurry.  

 

 

 

I also keep a basket of already rinsed off fruit on the kitchen counter. I have found that as long as all he has to do is grab it, open it and eat it, then he won't ask me for unhealthy snacks that he can simply open and eat, like chips or cookies.  There are times that I let him have chips and cookies, but I choose the more healthier ones, like baked chips and low calorie cookies, but I don't keep them in the house, so the only time he has access to them is when we go out.  I use my slow cooker a lot during the week so when I get home, dinner is finished and there is not much clean up. It's a good investment because you can find a lot of healthy slow cooker recipes online. I also found a lot of kid friendly fish recipes that are quick and easy.  I can send you some of the recipes if you want them. My email address is diane731@comcast.net  

 

  

 

It takes time and effort to get a child at that age to stick to a good balanced eating plan, and get them on a schedule to make sure they are getting proper excercise, but it can be done.  I personally never thought I would be able to get my son to eat fish, but the recipes that I have found are great!  I found a lot of them at www.allrecipes.com You can find good recipes there and make them low calorie just by making some changes in the ingredients.   

 

Just by having my son on this eating plan, me and my 16 yr old daughter have lost weight too.  The key is to just be patient and make some small changes around the house. I'm sure the people that Dr. Phil has set you up with will have a good plan for your daughter. I just hope some of these tips help with your busy schedule. Please don't hessitate to email me if there is anything I can help you with. I will be more then happy to.  You have a beautiful daughter, and once she starts to lose a few pounds, she will get so excited and motivated that it will make things a little easier. You have been blessed with a beautiful daughter and a wonderful mom who loves the both of you very much, so please cherish the time you have together, you'll be glad you did.  

Sincerely, 

Diane 

 

 
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February 9, 2006, 9:00 pm PST

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Hello, 

  

Thanks for your encouragemnent to Jazmyn.  Yes, she is a great person.    

However, her appearance and her personality are not at issue, her health is. 

  

About the pointing fingers at her, however, you couldn't be further from the truth.  I hope you take the time to read my posts.  They will help you better understand the situation with all of us. 

  

The reason Jazmyn's weight is as issue is because at age 11, she has crossed the 200 lb. mark and is in danger of health complications no child should be saddled with and it puts her future at risk.  

  

Although her mother and I are overweight as well, and need to lose weight for health reasons too, neither one of us crossed the 200 lb. mark until we were well into our adult years and had become mothers ourselves.   As a child, Jazmyn's weight problem must be controlled otherwise her adult years will see her much heavier than we are, at least as much as 600 pounds or more!  

  

Jazmyn (which is a lovely name ,by the way)...Has a future if the wieght is controlled now. She is such a beautiful, spirited young lady that needs a helping hand!...While mom and grandma have some weight issues or their own, they're not to the point that lil' Jazmyn would be if some steps are taken now..before her joints turn bad and she can't run and play like other childern. In this day and age kids do not need the added peer pressure of ridicule. 

 

See seems to be a wonderful little lady....Mom & Grandma...help her....you can... 

 

Carmen 

 
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February 9, 2006, 9:38 pm PST

02/08 Deadly Eating

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Stopping Cocaine is a matter of stepping away from the line you are about to snort 

Stopping Heroin is about not shooting up any more 

Quitting smoking is about not lighting up another cigarette 

It IS about pushing away from the table, but like all other addictions, the food is no longer about sustainance it is about "comfort" or "euphoria' etc. 

Would anyone smoke if it was just a matter of not lighting up?? well... yes.. as a matter of fact the vast majority of people who successfully quit smoking no longer light cigarettes.. 

It may not be easy to overcome an addiction, but all this talk of it being DNA of Thyroid or whatever would mean that it is "not the obese persons " fault", which in turn enables that person to continue down the pathway while he or she blames outside forces for their weight. 

While it is true that some people have an easier time of maintaining their weight than others ultimately a prison camp diet takes weight off everybody in the camp. 

Hey there.  What is your email addy?  I have something to ask you and this isn't the appropriate place for that.  Someone needs your enlightenment bad!!!!!! 
 
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February 9, 2006, 9:39 pm PST

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Paul I just wanted to say that I think you are so brave for coming on the show, I have been fighting with weight my whole life and it is a hard battle and I know you can do it.  I have faith in you, you are a strong person, just let that strong person show through and you will be fine.  The first step has been taken by you now you just have to go with it...and I know you can do it.  If you ever need a friend to chat with or someone just to give you support in a hard time email me LynKnst@aol.com . Best of luck to you Paul I know you can beat this. Life is an adventure, let the adventure begin. 

 
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February 10, 2006, 2:22 am PST

02/08 Deadly Eating

Paul,  

 

I live in the same town as you, I have seen you a lot when I use to work at the theater, And we have mutual friends.  

 

I just wanted to tell you my thoughts and prayers are with you. Stay Strong. 

 

Teresa 

 
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February 10, 2006, 4:24 am PST

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I appreciate all the help that Dr. Phil gives to the obesity epidemic but what about helping other addictions like smoking?    

I would be a good candidate to help stop smoking because although I want to be a non-smoker so badly, I feel like W.C. Fields - "I'm good at quitting, I've done it millions of times!!!"   

As an ex-smoker (eight years) I can tell you it is an addiction and when you smell a cigarette even though you know it is disgusting, the old temptation is there.  Stay away from people and places were you are likely to encounter smoking, this is possible. 

  

Eating disorders are far worse, I have food addictions as well, if you have one addiction, you should be able to empathize with the others, they are all basically the same, we crave the substance whatever it is and feel physically and/or emotionally ill without it.  Food cannot be avoided like smoking.  That's the difference. 

  

Throw away the cigarettes and picture your lungs getting cleaning instead of the black mess they are now.  I still picture that myself when tempted to smoke.  Smoking makes your clothes and house stink, your hair stinks.  I'm not insulting you, I'm giving you things to tell yourself.  Good Luck, you're worth giving your lungs a break. 

  

Now if I could just quit all the extra eating. 

 
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