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September 26, 2005, 1:34 am CDT

Orthomolecular treatment works

Who says vitamins, proper diet and exercise won't work to relieve depression and/or other "mental disorders"? 

I'm recovering from several years of damage from a variety of SSRIs, benzos and a tricyclic. 

I had most of the listed side effects from each drug, plus horrific withdrawal effects from discontinuing the drugs too quickly. Doctors are taking patients off of these drugs too fast, causing withdrawal problems, sometimes severe. But that's another story. My two original diagnoses, depression and anxiety, are gone now because of vitamins, proper diet (whole foods, no artificial flavorings/colors, etc.) and gentle exercise. I'm left only with drug-induced problems, such as depersonalization, numbness and burning sensations in the extremities, weakness and insomnia. And even those problems are waning because I'm taking proper care of myself now. You might say that those symptoms are signs of mental illness, but I assure you they didn't show up until after I'd been on drugs for some time. Some were the result of discontinuing. 

I want to add that I'm not a fan of Tom Cruise, nor am I a scientologist. But he was definitely telling the truth. 

 
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September 26, 2005, 12:47 pm CDT

09/28 Overmedicating America: The Cruise Controversy

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she may not be alive today if it weren't for her medications. 

I am not saying that doctors do not over prescribe but I think there are some cases where the ONLY way to live a productive life is to be on medication. I think Mr. Cruise was totally wrong for using his movie as a way to put down mental health. He is WRONG when he says there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance of the brain. 

Bipolar is one very REAL mental illness that is in fact an imbalance of chemicals in the brain. 

My daughter is not a zombie on her medications, she is better. Before meds she used to rage and destroy things and was very aggressive towards her sister who is 11 years YOUNGER than her. Since being on the right combo of meds at the right dose she is a much better person. She can function and doesn't hurt her sister and doesn't rage out of control anymore. 

  

JMO 

Tammy 

"I think Mr. Cruise was totally wrong for using his movie as a way to put down mental health. He is WRONG when he says there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance of the brain." 

  

When did he use the movie to put down mental health? 

 
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September 26, 2005, 12:48 pm CDT

Wrong

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What is a Chemical Imbalance?

Over the course of the last three decades much research into the origins of emotional distress and disturbances have led researchers to embrace “chemical imbalance” as the leading cause. Though the exact mechanisms linking chemical imbalances and common disorders like anxiety, depression and ADHD are not completely understood, clinical studies and medical observations have been able to identify a number of chemical inconsistencies that occur in individuals who report experiencing symptoms related to these disorders.  

Common chemical imbalances related to anxiety and depression related disorders that have been observed in clinical practice include: 

  • Reduced availability of neurotransmitters like Serotonin, Dopamine, Norepinephrine, GABA and acetylcholine.
  • Increased levels of toxic neurochemicals such as Homocysteine
  • Lower levels of serum Magnesium, Zinc or Potassium
  • Unhealthy, or deficient levels of essential vitamins like B6, B9, B12 and Vitamin-C
  • Undersupply of key cofactors like amino acids that are used to help transport neurotransmitter precursors into the blood-brain barrier.
  • Increased cortisol stress hormone levels
I don't know where you get your information, but no one can check the levels of serotonin, norepinephrine or dopamine in the brain until an autopsy is done. Frankly, I'd rather not have to have an autopsy just to check my neurotransmitter levels.
 
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September 26, 2005, 3:11 pm CDT

09/28 Overmedicating America: The Cruise Controversy

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He was on The Today Show promoting his movie and decided to use that as a way to put down Brooke Shields for he ruse of anti-depressants for treatment of post partum depression.  

  

and the information I got regarding chemical imbalance of the brain was from a website that I found while searching out chemical imbalances of the brain. 

  

  

You didn't say exactly how he used his movie "as a way to put down Brooke Shields...". 

Truth: He didn't use the movie as an opener to discuss the pseudo-science of psychiatry. 

  

The information you received about chemical imbalance is wrong. The website you saw was most likely sponsored by a pharmaceutical company. 

Truth: The "chemical imbalance" theory is just that, a theory. No test exists to support such a theory and there is no real conception of what a correct chemical balance would look like. 

  

Look for the money trail to determine who's telling the truth. There's no monetary benefit for people like Tom Cruise, Drs. Thomas Szasz, Peter Breggin, Joseph Glenmullen, Bob Whitaker and Anne Blake Tracy. They speak the truth. On the otherhand, all the pharmaceuticals giants have been making a killing from selling drugs that don't work for diseases that don't exist. And if the truth is known about the dangers of these drugs, these pharma giants could lose billions. 

 
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September 26, 2005, 5:07 pm CDT

09/28 Overmedicating America: The Cruise Controversy

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I will be the bigger and better person here and say I agree to disagree with you. 

I think Tom Cruise was wrong to even mention psychiatry while promoting a movie.  I think I could say the same thing to you regarding your statement on theory's..   

Talk to people who live with illnesses such as bipolar and schitzoprenia, try telling them they do not need to medicate to be able to function. If you have not lived with someone who has a mental illness it may be hard for you to grasp the fact that if medications, like everything else is taken in moderation and monitored they can be very useful.  

Would you tell a diabetic not to give themselves an insulin shot? Probably not so why tell me not to medicate myself or my daughter? 

  

Thank you for letting me see your opinion, that is what each of us are entitled to, it doesn't make you or I wrong.  

Tammy  

There's no reason for anyone to imagine themselves a "bigger and better" person. And there's no reason to get defensive. Are you afraid of the facts? 

Did your doctor give you that spiel about the diabetes comparison? That's what we've all heard. But that's comparing apples to oranges. Diabetes is a pathological disease, mental illness is not. One can have a test to determine insulin problems. Again, there are no tests to determine mental illnesses. One simply has to meet certain criteria in the DSM to determine a mental disorder. This is unreliable and subjective. 

You said: 

"Probably not so why tell me not to medicate myself or my daughter?" 

  

If you'll read carefully my previous posts, at no time did I tell you or anyone not to medicate yourselves. 

Good day to you. 

  

And to the person who wrote that there is indeed a blood test for bipolar, I'd like to see this test. 

Patients taking drugs for the so-called bipolar, such as Depakote and Lithium, often times need to have blood work done regularly to make sure that they are metabolizing the drugs. Is this what you meant? 

 

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