Messages By: drcoosa
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October 1, 2005, 8:26 pm PDT
 Quote From: markthom I heard something very shocking recently about this cult; apparently if a member of the cult wishes to report any crime perpetrated by another member then the member who witnessed or was victim to the crime must leave the cult!!
A friend of mine dug this up for me when I told him I was going to post: http://www.xfamily.org/images/c/c5/CharterAmendments.pdf they actually have it in writing, at the end of section 27 - page 52 Right! The society at large equivalent of The Family's policy would be to say to a victim of a crime "you can report the crime, but to do so you will have to give up your home, your job, your friends, your family, your school, the deepest expression of your religion, and start from zero in a new culture." The Family does this so they can say with a straight face "we encourage our members to report crimes." Meanwhile they can rest assured that they have made it nearly impossible to actually do so. |
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October 2, 2005, 5:58 pm PDT
Quote From: robinz Children are a heritage of the Lord & the fruit of the womb is His reward. This verse sums up my feelings of the upbringing I had in The Family, and reminds me of the responsible attitude and conduct which I saw continually portrayed by my parents and caregivers throughout that upbringing. I am a second generation Family member, the oldest girl in a family of nine children. Because of my parents’ deep faith & love for the Lord I was given the privilege to be raised in what I consider the absolute best environment in the world.
Throughout my 29 years I have never personally seen nor experienced anything unloving, dangerous or damaging to myself or any other children as I grew up in Family communities all throughout Australia, India, Japan, the Philippines and New Zealand. Absolutely no form of abuse is tolerated in The Family! We were raised and still live according to the loving, Godly principles laid out in the Bible and my present lifestyle clearly reflects that for any objective inquirer who should care to hear a firsthand account from one of the allegedly “abused, deprived victims.” We daily interact with extremely diverse individuals from opposite walks of life i.e. orphans, delinquents, homeless families, college students, educators, lawyers, businessmen, policymakers, and officials just to name a few.
And this work is done by a team largely comprised of Family young adults ages 18 through 31, most of whom have been born & raised in The Family. The superior training that we received all of our lives has proved its value in the amazing things which we have accomplished. We were raised to be adaptable, relatable, versatile, persistent, industrious, have a strong work ethic, and we were well prepared to approach life so that we would excel in whatever capacity we chose.
Besides all the missionary work we of RESCATE are doing, there is the somewhat behind-the-scenes work of organizing, people handling, managing, accounting, organizing and fundraising. All vital to keeping our team of 28 people operational. And this took exceptional training as well! You try to run a business and then also live with your 27 other coworkers every day and notice the tact, concern, love, unselfishness, patience and countless other values needed to be productive. We were given that extra measure of morale needed by growing up in the Family.
I know that the Family in the best place for children to be raised because I lived it. –My husband lived it. –The 8 other second generation Family adults I live with lived it & we are all still living it. My eight brothers & sisters—apart from my eldest brother who moved on & has since become a very useful citizen to secular society—are all also still living it & making a difference each & every day in their respective mission fields.
April Fischer, second generation member of the Family International.
Age 30
April, This was written by your founder David Berg. Attached is a link to a original scan of the document. It seems to suggest that pedophillia is understandable if men are not getting sex from adult women. Care to comment?
http://www.xfamily.org/documents/fam/ml/ml-1270.pdf
From Family publication
ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS!--NO.2 DO 1270 9/82 6. QUESTION: ALSO, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ADULT BRETHREN LUSTING SEXUALLY AFTER CHILDREN UNDER 10 YEARS OLD!--Francis & Summer Sonrise; USA (Note: We have recieved several letters from concerned parents re: "unapproved" sex with young children--without counsel or knowledge of parents, usually done by single brothers. Any comment? TY! Love, Sara D) ANSWER: I think we've said enough about this in the Letters. But it's sad if the poor single brothers have to resort to this because of obvious sexual deprivation by older sisters! David Berg |
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October 3, 2005, 12:15 pm PDT
He is talking to his mistress Karen Zerby (Maria) the current leader. They are discussing women who have had a lot of children and are now very weak. Do you April agree with his sexist notions?From the Devil Hates Sex 20 May 1980 DFO#999 Paragraph 120: All right, if they're too damn weak to both bear'm and care'm, well, they can have'm and having performed their service, go to be with the Lord, [die] and the husband can marry a nice strong young woman who's got the health and strength to take care of'm! (Maria: It's not that simple, you don't just die!) Why not? Death of mothers was quite frequent when I was a kid. It was not at all unusual for a man to have had two or three wives, not because of divorce and remarriage but because of the women having so many children and such hard work that she finally wore out or he wore her out and she died and he married somebody else! Does that shock you?121 Well, praise God, if she performed her service and she did her job and it got finished earlier than most people and the Lord took her, well she's all the better off, PTL! She never had a chance to even grow old, and he can get a nice young wife with a lot of strength and energy that can finish the job! I mean death is not such a terrible thing! David Berg |
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October 3, 2005, 12:37 pm PDT
Quote From: robinz Children are a heritage of the Lord & the fruit of the womb is His reward. This verse sums up my feelings of the upbringing I had in The Family, and reminds me of the responsible attitude and conduct which I saw continually portrayed by my parents and caregivers throughout that upbringing. I am a second generation Family member, the oldest girl in a family of nine children. Because of my parents’ deep faith & love for the Lord I was given the privilege to be raised in what I consider the absolute best environment in the world.
Throughout my 29 years I have never personally seen nor experienced anything unloving, dangerous or damaging to myself or any other children as I grew up in Family communities all throughout Australia, India, Japan, the Philippines and New Zealand. Absolutely no form of abuse is tolerated in The Family! We were raised and still live according to the loving, Godly principles laid out in the Bible and my present lifestyle clearly reflects that for any objective inquirer who should care to hear a firsthand account from one of the allegedly “abused, deprived victims.” We daily interact with extremely diverse individuals from opposite walks of life i.e. orphans, delinquents, homeless families, college students, educators, lawyers, businessmen, policymakers, and officials just to name a few.
And this work is done by a team largely comprised of Family young adults ages 18 through 31, most of whom have been born & raised in The Family. The superior training that we received all of our lives has proved its value in the amazing things which we have accomplished. We were raised to be adaptable, relatable, versatile, persistent, industrious, have a strong work ethic, and we were well prepared to approach life so that we would excel in whatever capacity we chose.
Besides all the missionary work we of RESCATE are doing, there is the somewhat behind-the-scenes work of organizing, people handling, managing, accounting, organizing and fundraising. All vital to keeping our team of 28 people operational. And this took exceptional training as well! You try to run a business and then also live with your 27 other coworkers every day and notice the tact, concern, love, unselfishness, patience and countless other values needed to be productive. We were given that extra measure of morale needed by growing up in the Family.
I know that the Family in the best place for children to be raised because I lived it. –My husband lived it. –The 8 other second generation Family adults I live with lived it & we are all still living it. My eight brothers & sisters—apart from my eldest brother who moved on & has since become a very useful citizen to secular society—are all also still living it & making a difference each & every day in their respective mission fields.
April Fischer, second generation member of the Family International.
Age 30
April, the following statements from your leader David Berg are virulently anti-Semitic. Do you agree with these statements of Berg's, and if so, how does that square with your claim of missionary work? Do you also share the belief that God is racist and anti-Semitic?
Spoken by David Berg:
"May God damn the God-damned Jews! My God, I think if I could get over there and had a gun I think I'd shoot 'em myself! My God damn them in Jesus' name! In Jesus' name, strike! Strike! Strike! God damn the Jews! Those Anti-Christ, Christ-hating Jews, God damn them! O God, if I had a gun I'd shoot them myself! God damn the Jews! God damn them, God damn them, God damn them, in Jesus' name! Damn the anti-Christ Jews! Damn them O God! God damn them!" ("A Prayer for the Poor!", 681:23,25,33,34,35,76)
"And yet the Jews condemn Hitler for killing Jews! Well, now you know why Hitler wanted to kill'm all! The World would have been a lot better off without'm a long time ago!" ("The Beirut Massacre!", 1284:38)
"'Ah, he's not only an anti-Semite, he's a racist!'--Yes, I'm an anti-Semite, because God is! Yes, I'm a racist, because God is!" ("The Troublemakers!--And the Solution!", 1222:110) David Berg |
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October 3, 2005, 1:05 pm PDT
The Family as per their usual MO is exploiting the Katrina disaster for publicity, funding, and supplies. Here is a link of their so called ministry. http://www.katrinareliefhome.com/
I wonder how the victims and responders would feel if they knew that The Family leader Karen Zerby had the following to say about Katrina:
The persecution connection
54. (Mama:) The Lord also brought out the point that one reason for His hand of judgment on the U.S. was because of their vilification and persecution of the Family in the recent news articles, magazine articles, and TV shows. Although there have been articles in other countries, most of the lies and slander have been spread in and from the U.S., and the Lord was not pleased.
mises, and alert you that the fulfillment of many more is at the door.
56. This event, and others to come like it, are My hand of judgment on a wicked country that, among its many sins‚ has been the base for those who have rejected you, scorned your work, vilified your messages publicly. The mentality of the American public-–hardened, calloused, violent‚ selfish, bitter, "me-first," spoiled and corrupt--has made it easy for your detractors to sow their lies and exaggerations and find a receptive audience with the media. You can see in this storm My hand of vengeance and judgment, for I am not pleased when a nation maligns My prophets.
57. This disaster doesn't just affect those whose lives are immediately touched by it. This disaster will affect the entire U.S. in time‚ and it will shake them up and cause them to take stock. The reasons for which I would have to punish that country are almost without number, but one of their prime sins and most recent transgressions has been their treatment of you, My Family‚ in the media.
58. I have promised vengeance and judgment for those that attack you and thus attack Me, and so I have done it. This is not the only reason for the catastrophe, but it is one of the most pertinent to you. I will take action against a nation that vilifies you in its press and heaps scorn and persecution on you. --Karen Zerby, GN 1147
http://media.xfamily.org/docs/fam/gn/gn_1147.htm
("World Currents!--No.103: Hurricane Katrina", GN 1147, September 2005) |
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October 4, 2005, 2:23 pm PDT
Quote From: justpureme In the USA you remain innocent until proven guilty. For being a land of truth and freedom, my personal rights are quickly vanishing, having been stolen from me by media shows like these, spreading untruths about my way of life. If you’re seeking to broadcast truth regarding the group The Family, why don’t you look into all sides, including mine? I think if you were to thoroughly investigate you would find that there are many more happy and well adjusted young people, most who are still members of the group, and some who have left to pursue other walks of life, then angry or abused ones. Maybe the “abuse” wasn’t as widespread as its being made out to be. And I don’t think it’s fair to say that because I am still a member of the group that I am somehow unable to determine or recognize abuse, or rightly choose between right and wrong. I am responsible for my own choices and decisions in life, just as you are for yours. The generalizations about The Family being an abusive cult are simply not true. The whole cult and everyone in it are not abusers; in fact it’s probably a safer environment over all than many other places in the world. Its almost like saying that because you were once in a car accident involving a driver from, say, Wyoming, its highly likely that anyone residing in the state of Wyoming will most likely crash into you. So what are you going to do? Have a show where you will discuss how all people from the state of Wyoming are bad drivers and how we should suspend all drivers’ licenses within that state? Or that any one hoping to be a good driver moves to another state? It’s a bit extreme when seen from that perspective. (Note: no offense meant to anyone in Wyoming.)
I’ve been a member of this missionary group, The Family Int., since I was 3yrs old. I am now 21yrs. I have never been abused in any way. My statement is not an “excuse”, as some have claimed, it’s simply the truth. Thank you for respecting that. My mother (my parents are divorced) gave me all the love and care I could ever want or need, and then some. I love you mom. I have a wonderful younger sister and the coolest little brother. The people who were my teachers and caretakers gave me the very best in every aspect; the education I received is invaluable, and I know I owe them a great deal of thanks for the positive influence they were in my life. The most valuable and treasured gift I was given was my knowledge of God and His Son Jesus. Knowing that I have my Savior forever in my heart is the most important aspect and part of my life. Being raised with the simple truth of God sending His only Son Jesus to die for my sins (Jn. 3:16) so that I could live eternally with Him in Heaven once my life on earth is done, and being given the commission of telling others who have never heard the name Jesus, of His great love for them (Mk. 16:15), has been the most wonderful part of my life. I know everyone doesn’t believe the way I do, God created us as individuals and as such we each connect with Him in our own way, and I have a lot of respect for the beliefs and faith of others. I’m glad that our country, the USA, allows us the right and freedom to believe in God, unlike some countries that aren’t as blessed. I’m disturbed by the fact that I’m defending my self, my life, and my belief in God as if I were on trial. I’m sorry if Jim, Kristi, China, and John, experienced a difficult life, and I truly hope that they are able to find closure for the things they experienced. Maybe they could more directly address the individuals whom they feel they were hurt by instead of targeting a whole group of people. Because all of a sudden this becomes a direct attack against me and my way of life, which is hard for me to understand seeing as I’ve never met any of them. But trying to tear down my life and beliefs to somehow help them feel better about theirs doesn’t seem quite right to me. I’m so sorry if to some my post seems “void of emotion” but maybe that’s due to the fact that I am not angry at anybody else. I have a happy and fulfilling life and job, I am blessed to have wonderful friends and family, and I only wish for all you who wonder about our “group” to come out and visit us for yourselves, then you would at least have a fair chance of making up your own mind as far as our “group” is concerned. You say " In the USA you remain innocent until proven guilty. For being a land of truth and freedom, my personal rights are quickly vanishing, having been stolen from me by media shows like these, spreading untruths about my way of life. If you’re seeking to broadcast truth regarding the group The Family."
How can you lecture us about innocent until proven guilty when you're own leader just last month was talking about how Katrina was god's judgement on a evil US. Here are Zerby's quotes. Have you read them?
(Mama:) So as you can see, dear Family, there are several main reasons for this storm and the destruction it has wrought:
1) America is beginning to suffer severe physical consequences for her spiritual sins. As the Lord said, "Just as the levees weren't strong enough to protect New Orleans from imminent disaster, neither were New Orleans' spiritual walls. They were weak--as shifting sand--slowly sinking along with the rest of America under the weight of her cumulative sin."
2) She's receiving the Lord's judgments for the pain and suffering and war she has inflicted upon others.
3) It's another sign of the End for America, that "all things do not continue as they have been."
4) It's the Lord's merciful warning, a call for people to examine their lives and their values and their way of life and turn again to Him.
5) It's the Lord's hand of judgment on a country that has despised His Words and misused His prophets.
World Currents!--No.103: Hurricane Katrina
By Maria FD/MM/FM 3562 9/05 |
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October 4, 2005, 3:29 pm PDT
Quote From: jasonp I’m Jason, 21 yr old living in the US, and have been a member of the Family International (the full time missionary organization that is being labeled a “cult”) since birth.
Strangely enough (or maybe not so strange), for the 21 years I’ve lived and worked in this organization, I have never been abused, nor have I witnessed abuse of any kind. I’ve traveled the world, first with my parents and then as a teenager and young adult on my own, and still have never even met anyone in our organization that has suffered abuse at all, whether mental, psychological, physical, or otherwise.
I’ve gotten kind of tired lately of trying to defend my chosen life, and the organization that I am proudly a part of. If people don’t like it, they don’t have to stick around. It’s not like anyone is forced to stay. People don’t “escape” from the Family, if they don’t like it; they simply walk out the door. And as far as all of you who have never been in The Family, I’d suggest contacting us, and finding our side of the story before labeling us as a “cruel, godless, cult, run by monsters”.
We’re missionaries!
We’re the ones that help people in places like New Orleans with Katrina, or Asia with the Tsunami’s. And apart from all our humanitarian aid work, and comforting of the needy, we also have firm belief in Jesus, and are proud to give his message of Love and salvation to everyone we meet.
Abuse? I think not!
Why do people ignore the fact that court case after court case has found our organization to be a safe and actually psychologically superior place for children to be brought up? If any of this alleged abuse ever actually happened, it must have happened 20 or more years ago, and even then it’s questionable. The Family is, and has always been, a safe, pleasant environment for children, a challenging adventurous life for the adolescent, and a fulfilling, inspiring life of dedication and service to God and our fellow man, for the rest of us.
Need I say more?
Everyone who is in the Family is here because they want to be. And those who left mostly moved on with their lives. As opposed to a vocal few who either for financial gain, or for sympathy, are spending their lives trying to blame their misfortune on their past and upbringing. I don’t need or want to be rescued from the life I have chosen. All we ask is that we are left alone to serve the Lord as we please.
We are here to change the world one heart at a time. To make the world a better place through the love of Jesus, and our fellow man.
Why not join us! More recent writings from your cult on such topics as the Tsunami and Katrina
GN 1147 FD/MM/FM
World Currents!--No.103: Hurricane Katrina
By Maria FD/MM/FM 3562 9/05
Jesus:) On the day of this disaster [the Asian tsunami], December 26--not yet 24 hours past the earthly celebration of My birth--Hell belched and spewed forth Cyclor and his legions. This was no ordinary earthquake from the depths of the sea. On this day there was a great rumbling from the pits of Hell, and in the netherworld Satan opened his cavernous gates and out came Cyclor and his legions of demons. His power has now been unleashed to touch and hurt the Earth and the peoples of the Earth. His time has begun, and so must the Earth and the physical elements be touched in cataclysmic and catastrophic ways before the final end of days will begin for all the Earth.
72. Although this country has been wicked and vile in their sins before Me, and although they have treated you so wrongly, I am still willing to give another chance to those who have most directly felt My hand of judgment. Each has their sins and wrongdoings, none are perfect before Me, and I have allowed each affected person to be affected for My own reasons, |
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October 5, 2005, 9:56 am PDT
Quote From: robinz I would assume that with your moralistic predicating you must of course be unselfishly assisting in Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. It's so easy to criticize the efforts of those who are investing their time and lives to help others, while doing absolutely nothing to make the world a better place or to help those in need. Over 50 Family members have been donating countless hours of their time in the aftermath of the Hurricane Katrina crisis and receiving no remuneration for their efforts other than the joy of serving another. What exactly have you invested in these efforts? When you get out and do something, that will give you the right to speak. Here's a quote for you:
"It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena‚ whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcomings; who knows the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at best knows in the end the high achievement of triumph, and who at worst, if he fails while daring greatly‚ knows his place shall never be with those timid and cold souls who know neither victory nor defeat."--Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919) To April of Mike.
You addressed me. You asked me questions about what I am doing about Katrina. Does this mean you know want to have an online dialogue? If so, before I respond to you, I ask that you be so kind to respond to the two question I have already ask you on this board.
The first is whether you agree with Berg’s pro-pedophilia statement below.
The second is whether you subscribe to Berg’s anti-Semitic statements below.
After you answer these questions we can dialogue about Katrina. I have done Family “relief work.” I know the scam you guys run quite well. So answer me and we can have at it.
Coosa, MD.
April, this was written by your founder David Berg. Attached is a link to a original scan of the document. It seems to suggest that pedophilia is understandable if men are not getting sex from adult women. Care to comment? http://www.xfamily.org/documents/fam/ml/ml-1270.pdf From Family publication ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS!--NO.2 DO 1270 9/82 6. QUESTION: ALSO, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ADULT BRETHREN LUSTING SEXUALLY AFTER CHILDREN UNDER 10 YEARS OLD!--Francis & Summer Sonrise; USA (Note: We have received several letters from concerned parents re: "unapproved" sex with young children--without counsel or knowledge of parents, usually done by single brothers. Any comment? TY! Love, Sara D) ANSWER: I think we've said enough about this in the Letters. But it's sad if the poor single brothers have to resort to this because of obvious sexual deprivation by older sisters! David Berg
April, the following statements from your leader David Berg are virulently anti-Semitic. Do you agree with these statements of Berg's, and if so, how does that square with your claim of missionary work? Do you also share the belief that God is racist and anti-Semitic? Spoken by David Berg: "May God damn the God-damned Jews! My God, I think if I could get over there and had a gun I think I'd shoot 'em myself! My God damn them in Jesus' name! In Jesus' name, strike! Strike! Strike! God damn the Jews! Those Anti-Christ, Christ-hating Jews, God damn them! O God, if I had a gun I'd shoot them myself! God damn the Jews! God damn them, God damn them, God damn them, in Jesus' name! Damn the anti-Christ Jews! Damn them O God! God damn them!" ("A Prayer for the Poor!", 681:23,25,33,34,35,76) "And yet the Jews condemn Hitler for killing Jews! Well, now you know why Hitler wanted to kill'm all! The World would have been a lot better off without'm a long time ago!" ("The Beirut Massacre!", 1284:38) "'Ah, he's not only an anti-Semite, he's a racist!'--Yes, I'm an anti-Semite, because God is! Yes, I'm a racist, because God is!" ("The Troublemakers!--And the Solution!", 1222:110) David Berg
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October 5, 2005, 10:48 pm PDT
Quote From: hartsford If John & China knew the Family was such an abusive cult then why would they place their son under the care of one of the Family homes several years ago? If I am not mistaken it was for a duration of 3 to 4 weeks, correct me if I'm wrong. Ask China's son if he suffered any abuse while he was with us, was he beaten, sexually molested, brainwashed? I am sure that he will tell you that none of this happened and that we did all that we could to take care of him to the best of our ability.
We believe that our children are a gift from God and we would never think of harming them in any way! It makes me angry to hear allegations that our homes are not safe enviroments for our children! Our communities are free from substance abuse, bullying, sexual abuse, neglect and all other forms of abuse. The allegations that there was widespread abuse is ridiculous!!!!! Of course there were a few individuals in the past who were abusive and did some very wrong things.
However we shouldn't judge the entire population of the Family just by these few individuals. Should we consider all Catholic Priests pedophile homosexuals based on a handful of convictions? It would be ridiculous to now start judging every priest as a pedophile wouldn't it? Or maybe we should think that the whole catholic church is a perverted twisted cult that abuses children all the time.!!? This would be an ignorant and biased way of thinking wouldn't you say?
From an SGA male
It's about what happen years ago. You all keep talking about how great it is now. We are talking about abuses from years ago. Their distance however, does not make them any less valid. You say you believe children are a gift from god... fine. But when we were growing up some Family people including you leader and his childcare workers obviously though children were a gift from god to be enjoyed sexualy. I still have not seen a Family SGA respond to the quotes from Berg excusing sex with children under the age of 10.
Are you sure you want to start making comparisons to the Catholic church? To begin with they don't have any doctrines that say the following." ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS!--NO.2 DO 1270 9/82 6. QUESTION: ALSO, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ADULT BRETHREN LUSTING SEXUALLY AFTER CHILDREN UNDER 10 YEARS OLD!--Francis & Summer Sonrise; USA (Note: We have received several letters from concerned parents re: "unapproved" sex with young children--without counsel or knowledge of parents, usually done by single brothers. Any comment? TY! Love, Sara D) ANSWER: I think we've said enough about this in the Letters. But it's sad if the poor single brothers have to resort to this because of obvious sexual deprivation by older sisters! BERG
The Catholic Church had and probably still has a problem with pedophilia. The difference between your CULT and the Catholic Church is that they don't have writings advocating adult child sex. The Family does. So one can argue that if you prosecute the rapist and abusers in the clergy and then set up a system of reporting, and pay nearly a billion dollars in reperations to the victims it might help to clean the stain that has indeed come over the church. In the case of your CULT, to date, nothing of any substance has been done. Your CULT is still being run by the same pedophiles that were responsible for our abuse. You are still sending 14% of you income to support a leadership run thru with pedophiles. When we are given access to the Family's files, when the Family helps us to investigate every reported case of abuse no matter how high it reaches, when the Family tells us where the abusers are now residing, when the Family is forced to pay the victims for their suffering, when the Family proves...not just claims, but proves that all children are far from known pedophiles, when we are able to see our rapists and abuser behind bars where they belong, when the Family stops blaming this all on the victims...then...and only then will you be able in any fairness to even hope for legitimization.
Until then, you sir, as a young SGA in the Family will unfortunately have to bear the shame, inconvinience, difficulties, "persecution," and disruption to you work resulting from the criminal sexual perversions of the first generation of Family members from 10, 15, and 20 years ago. You wish to be free to do you missionary work. Might I submit that you job as missionaries would be much better acomplished without the large "millstone" of first generation unrepentant pedophiles draging you down.
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October 6, 2005, 1:39 pm PDT
I think I should thank Dr. Phil. For the first time perhaps ever, I see SGAs in the Family and SGAs outside of the Family having an uncensored back and forth. It's still a bit angry and it still involves a lot of talking over the others but it's a great start. The bottom line is that there are some very real issues that will never to go away without some frank discussion and eventually some action. Hopefully this forum can generate some substantive links between these two camps. As I see it, the SGAs in The Family want to be left alone to do their missionary work and live their lives, while those of us on the outside don't begrudge them that desire. We too wish to be able to live our lives in peace. For many of us that peace and healing will come when we are able to see some justice for the abuse we suffered.
Here we are having the chance to dispel some myths that may exsist.
Myth 1) That it is our wish to have Family children removed from their parents by the state. I have always advised against it and would fight it were it ever a possibility.
Myth 2) That this effort is due to a disagreement with Family SGAs on a religious basis. Wrong, we may not respect what it is you believe, but we do respect you right to believe it.
Myth 3) That we are bitter about our unhappy lives and have focused our anger on The Family.
Most of those who I know that are active in this effort are living successful and happy lives for the most part. Speaking for myself , when I was poor and uneducated I did not have the time nor the energy to devote to this effort. It is only now that I am quite happy with my life and my career, I have the time, the money, and confidence to pursue this.
Myth 4) That nothing The Family can ever do will satisfy us. This is not correct. There is a lot that can be done. We have listed it repeatedly. A start would be for the Family to demonstrate willingness to actually directly comunicate with us in a good faith effort.
These are just a few of the many myths that exsist. I hope that this interaction will begin to dispell those myths and bring us to a place were we can focus our energies on those who commited the crimes in the first place and brought us to this unhappy state.
I welcome Family SGAs to respond and perhaps add to the list of myths that they may see from our side.
Coosa MD.
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