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October 2, 2005, 1:14 pm PDT

As one of 1800 + young people born in the Family

Children are a heritage of the Lord & the fruit of the womb is His reward. This verse sums up my feelings of the upbringing I had in The Family, and reminds me of the responsible attitude and conduct which I saw continually portrayed by my parents and caregivers throughout that upbringing. I am a second generation Family member, the oldest girl in a family of nine children. Because of my parents’ deep faith & love for the Lord I was given the privilege to be raised in what I consider the absolute best environment in the world.

  

 

Throughout my 29 years I have never personally seen nor experienced anything unloving, dangerous or damaging to myself or any other children as I grew up in Family communities all throughout Australia, India, Japan, the Philippines and New Zealand. Absolutely no form of abuse is tolerated in The Family! We were raised and still live according to the loving, Godly principles laid out in the Bible and my present lifestyle clearly reflects that for any objective inquirer who should care to hear a firsthand account from one of the allegedly “abused, deprived victims.”

I live in Mexico along with my husband & our five children (ages 1-11 years old) who we feel are a reward & honor to raise. Our expanding missionary work to help the needy people of this country has many aspects ranging from giving physical aid, in the form of food, clothing, medical supplies, toys etc… to the more important spiritual aid, that of counseling, mentoring, comforting, encouraging, assisting and guiding; And this all for a very broad variety of class and culture within Mexico.

  

 

We daily interact with extremely diverse individuals from opposite walks of life i.e. orphans, delinquents, homeless families, college students, educators, lawyers, businessmen, policymakers, and officials just to name a few.

  

 

And this work is done by a team largely comprised of Family young adults ages 18 through 31, most of whom have been born & raised in The Family. The superior training that we received all of our lives has proved its value in the amazing things which we have accomplished. We were raised to be adaptable, relatable, versatile, persistent, industrious, have a strong work ethic, and we were well prepared to approach life so that we would excel in whatever capacity we chose.

  

 

Besides all the missionary work we of RESCATE are doing, there is the somewhat behind-the-scenes work of organizing, people handling, managing, accounting, organizing and fundraising. All vital to keeping our team of 28 people operational. And this took exceptional training as well! You try to run a business and then also live with your 27 other coworkers every day and notice the tact, concern, love, unselfishness, patience and countless other values needed to be productive. We were given that extra measure of morale needed by growing up in the Family.

  

 

I know that the Family in the best place for children to be raised because I lived it. –My husband lived it. –The 8 other second generation Family adults I live with lived it & we are all still living it. My eight brothers & sisters—apart from my eldest brother who moved on & has since become a very useful citizen to secular society—are all also still living it & making a difference each & every day in their respective mission fields.

  

 

April Fischer, second generation member of the Family International.

  

 

Age 30
Happily Married 11 years
Born & raised in The Family
Currently a missionary in Mexico with “Proyecto Rescate”(Project Rescue)

  

 

 
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October 4, 2005, 4:31 pm PDT

What exactly are you doing to assist HK evacuees?

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You say " In the USA you remain innocent until proven guilty. For being a land of truth and freedom, my personal rights are quickly vanishing, having been stolen from me by media shows like these, spreading untruths about my way of life. If youre seeking to broadcast truth regarding the group The Family." How can you lecture us about innocent until proven guilty when you're own leader just last month was talking about how Katrina was god's judgement on a evil US. Here are Zerby's quotes. Have you read them? (Mama:) So as you can see, dear Family, there are several main reasons for this storm and the destruction it has wrought: 1) America is beginning to suffer severe physical consequences for her spiritual sins. As the Lord said, "Just as the levees weren't strong enough to protect New Orleans from imminent disaster, neither were New Orleans' spiritual walls. They were weak--as shifting sand--slowly sinking along with the rest of America under the weight of her cumulative sin." 2) She's receiving the Lord's judgments for the pain and suffering and war she has inflicted upon others. 3) It's another sign of the End for America, that "all things do not continue as they have been." 4) It's the Lord's merciful warning, a call for people to examine their lives and their values and their way of life and turn again to Him. 5) It's the Lord's hand of judgment on a country that has despised His Words and misused His prophets. World Currents!--No.103: Hurricane Katrina By Maria FD/MM/FM 3562 9/05

I would assume that with your moralistic predicating you must of course be unselfishly assisting in Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.  It's so easy to criticize the efforts of those who are investing their time and lives to help others, while doing absolutely nothing to make the world a better place or to help those in need.  Over 50 Family members have been donating countless hours of their time in the aftermath of the Hurricane Katrina crisis and receiving no remuneration for their efforts other than the joy of serving another.  What exactly have you invested in these efforts?  When you get out and do something, that will give you the right to speak.  Here's a quote for you: 

  

"It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena‚ whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcomings; who knows the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at best knows in the end the high achievement of triumph, and who at worst, if he fails while daring greatly‚ knows his place shall never be with those timid and cold souls who know neither victory nor defeat."--Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919) 

 
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October 15, 2005, 6:27 am PDT

No wonder Family members don't believe you...

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Now do you see the dilema we are in? This is why the ex-SGAs have written a letter to Maria and Peter asking them to help us with this. (http://www.movingon.org/article.asp?sID=4&Cat=24&ID=2488). This letter has been signed by over 180 people so far. With all the information that WS collects and archives on the monthly TRFs, they can produce that sort of information easily. 

  

leocon, I understand that you believe that it has only been a small handful of people who suffered abuse while in The Family. I believed that once too because it was what I had been told by Family leadership. I challenge you to read the stories told at http://www.movingon.org/abuse.asp with an open mind, setting aside any preconceived ideas. Yes, there are always two sides to every story, but as a parent you know that an action which you may deem insignificant has a vastly different effect on a child whose amygdala (the part of the brain that processes emotions) has not fully developed yet. Thus the accountability for any action that has a long-lasting negative effect on a child is placed squarely on your shoulders. 

  

I also fully understand your situation. I have a wife and two small daughters. When the question arises of, "Which do I devote my time to; bringing past abusers to justice or providing for my family?", the answer will always be: my family has priority. I'm glad you see it the same way. 

  

To save you some time, I will give you the name of just one person on that list. My email address is stephan_schmidt AT usa DOT com. If you jot me a quick note, I will respond with the information that I have on this person. 

  

I hope you understand my not making this information public on this forum. The information I will be sending you contains the personal history of one of my best friends. It would be irresponsible and negligent of me to post that information on this forum. 

  

Also, so far, it appears that as soon as the Family leadership has gotten wind that one of their members is being looked for by ex-members, they will notify that person and suggest that they leave the country. 

  

When FCF found it was under FBI investigation, and received criticism in the press, every one of their top directors temporarily fled to South America. I understand FCF has since relocated its headquarters as well. 

  

The way I see it, they would only do this if they had something to hide. 

  

If I was tipped off right now that the police was coming to my house to investigate me, I would say, "Let them come. My life is an open book. I have nothing to hide and if they discover that I am doing something illegal, I sure as hell want to know about it and be held accountable for my actions." 

  

Accountability: now there's one concept I was not properly taught in the Family. 

How can you expect current SGs to believe a word you say?  Neither the Family nor FCF was ever approached by the FBI, didn't move, and its director didn't flee to South America.   

    You might want to be careful of the rumor mill, it tends to discredit anything said.  Then you wonder why SGs have a hard time believing anything else you have to say.  Stick to the truth and to facts if you want to be credible. 

 

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