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October 20, 2006, 10:51 am PDT

Materialistic and Consumeristic=The Best in Life?

 I appreciate Dr. Phil's honest, no-nonsense approach to advising his guests, however much that makes them uncomfortable, yet I wish he had made one very important point to Carlena. That point being, Why does she think "the best" in life is just expensive possessions? Why does she make objects her top priority, which is evident in her spending habits.

I feel like I see this sort of mentality everywhere I look. Of course, iI enjoy dressing well, living  in nice, comfortable surroundings, occasionally eating sumptuous meals every now and then. But this consumerism has to be tempered with moderation, and the belief that the pursuit of objects ultimately does not make life meaningful and satisfying.

Let me put it to you this way: Would you rather have the trendiest clothes and most up-to-date electronic equipment, yet be lonely and have no friends or family? If your house went up in flames, would yourather the objects perish, or your family's lives?
 
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October 30, 2006, 6:49 pm PST

10/31 Cheating Disasters

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  What would be considered "cheating?"  There was a man who actively pursued me when he would come in for customer assistance. He listened when I needed someone, and I listened when he needed someone. I am married and he is married. So many times I told my husband that I needed more of hiim - not just the leftovers after he finished with his busy day. I told him I wanted to have a heart-to-heart with him and I told him my needs were being met somewhere else (I was on the way out the door to meet a girlfriend and go bar-hopping). He looked up from the TV show he was watching to say..."have a good night tonight, don't be out too long."  He even had dinner on the table when I would come home at night so I would "have a full belly" when I went out that night. Again, I tried to tell him that we needed to address a few issues,  and he insisted that I was making a big deal over our "perfect marriage" After all, he was happy. He never came out with me even if I asked. He has never touched a drink to his lips, nor does he ever have the desire. So....one night he asked me point blank if I was seeing someone else, and I was flat out honest and said yes. I told him that I wasn't sure I could give this person up -after all, neither one of us wanted to break up our marriages - we just needed someone to listen. He forgave me within a few days, and he has never wanted to talk about it. I have never been sexually involved with another man - I just wanted my needs to be met by HIM. I can't make him "get it." We live in this world of "I'm ok-you're ok...."  I insisted on counseling to try to work through some things.....he was apprehensive. Can't figure him out. We have been married for 11 years now, and I still find that I am persued by men who "want to listen"....but once they discover I will not begin a sexual affair, they split.  So....what do you think?  Am I crazy? My husband insists that *I* have the problem and therefore, he doesn't  need to be couseled.........

In the mean time, I broke my relationship up with this other person, but I find myself in this same position with another person who wants to get to know me.  So, can anyone tell me whether or not this was considered being unfaithful?? It doesn't even matter to him.....any advice??

 Yup, I think the situation you described falls squarely into the category of cheating.

I know you said you never became physically involved with the other man (men?), but like a lot of the posters on this board have said, you were having an emotional affair, and it sounds like you are again.

Please understand, I am not berating you; I am simply answering your question ("What would be considered 'cheating?'"). Now on to the part where I sympathize; it sounds like you are very lonely and ***desperate*** for emotional connection to your husband, and the dude sounds thick, though you portray him as decent and well-meaning. He doesn't perceive at all your yearning for him.

It's very disturbing that, even despite what I would think would be a devastating newflash  to him, he still doesn't want to participate in couples therapy with you. C'mon, dude, get a clue!

If you haven't already, see the counselor yourself, though ideally you want your husband there, too. It's something, and the therapist can help you get to the bottom of your issues and concerns. I know it doesn't sound fair, but it's better than continuing what you're doing, right? Perhaps this therapist can advise you on how to persuade your husband to come along, or, in the most extreme case, how to leave him.

And, of COURSE those other men take off when they learn you won't "put out." To all the ladies: if men know you are married, yet still pursue you, what does that say about their characters? Nothing good, don't you think?
 
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October 31, 2006, 2:06 pm PST

She's abusing the word "abuse"

 Sometimes, I feel like an "armchair therapist" yelling at the TV, just like a football spectator, with the advice that I wish Dr. Phil would give.

He should have totally called that second woman on her baloney (softening my language, cuz I don't want to offend  the message board moderators). How many times did she use that word "abuse?" Someone else on this board is esssentially saying the same thing I am. I will go one step further, and say that she is flat-out trying to shift the blame from her rickety, nasty shoulders to his. I think this woman is manipulating the audience and Dr. Phil by dropping the A-word, and trying to get out of taking responsibility by claiming abuse.

Dr. Phil gave that woman a pass, like he has with many people who deserved to get a huge metaphorical slap in the face and shown a mirror to see their ugliness.
 
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November 8, 2006, 1:48 pm PST

it's not the gap of years that's troublesome...

In Sanjay's and Jacqueline's case, what I think dooms the relationship is not the specific number of years in difference between their ages. 22 years in difference. Okay. We wouldn't really raise an eyebrow if she were 30 and he 52.

BUT, why I think this is a foolish match--long term relationship match, that is-- is the factor of the very different phases in life that each person is at: she's 18, he's 40. She's still a child--I mean, that is totally evident from the way she speaks--babbly, barely coherent as she was crying, not very articulate--and how she conducted herself, both on the video montage and in the studio in front of Dr. Phil and the audience.

I don't doubt the sincerity and passion of each one as they say they love each other. But it's naive and foolish to think that such a match could endure. As Dr. Phil said, she hasn't had the life experiences that make a person mature and truly an adult. It's very telling how defensive and arrogant she became when Dr. Phil pointed that out to her. I think he said something to that effect. When someone maintains how much she knows, you can't help but think that she can't even begin to comprehend the entirety of what she doesn't know.




 
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November 15, 2006, 2:00 pm PST

The hoarder's cute...cat lady--not so much

 The second guest with the general hoarding problem was funny. It's nice to have lighter moments on the Dr. Phil show every now and then, where the audience laughs goodnaturedly . I noticed how she and her husband do seem to genuinely love each other, so I'm glad for them about that. But I can sympathize with him and their son. My mother's a hoarder, though not to the degree that the Dr. Phil guest is.

Especially when it came to my late brother's stuff. My brother died when he was 17 of lung cancer--and no, he did not smoke. The cancer was congenital. But she was very anxious when she thought that I was throwing his things out. Growing up, I was ALWAYS cleaning the house. I love my mother to pieces, but I am so glad I am out from under her roof! When I visited  her the last time, she and my stepdad were idly chatting about the possibility of hiring a housekeeper, and my mother said, "But I don't want anyone to touch my stuff!" Huh? What's with the anxiety over stuff? Why do people with this hoarding syndrome attach so much signficance to things???

The cat lady, though...oy, I'm not even going to touch that subject. It seems like plenty of other people weighed in on her.
 
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November 15, 2006, 2:18 pm PST

Who says her neighbors are beating them?

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I think, in a perfect world, there is no such thing as too many cats...or dogs...or other animals that are cute and fuzzy. I remember a time when I came home from college we had 4 cats, 6 dogs, a persian guinea pig, a welsh pony staked out in our front yard, two ducks, a number of acquarium tanks from school (my dad was the science teacher), a cormrant took up residence by the pool and a blue parakeet flew in from nowhere...and we lived about 200 yards from the town bowling alley. On the other hand, the pony found a home on a horse farm down the road, one of the ducks went to live at Homossassa Springs, the parakeet died, the cormrant decided it didn't like chlorinated water and cooked fish so it left, and the acquariums went back to school once the holidays were over.

 

I love animals with a passion and I understand that lady deeply. I have two cats at present, having just found homes for three strays this summer. I tend to take in every stray that shows up  and find a home for it. Mom used to say we ran a halfway house for strays. I understand the need to take care of them and the heart break at the very idea of letting them fend for themselves in cold or bad weather, go hungry or unloved and it breaks my heart to see this lady do this. While I do, as stated, understand how she feels, she needs to see that unless she can afford to hire people to help with feeding, watering, grooming, vaccinating, spaying, neutering, etc., she is doing these babies a grave injustice. Contrary to popular belief, cats are not as independent as you might think. They need love and attention and they need brushing on a regular basis, especially the long-haired ones, because of the fur balls.  She needs to either move the cats to another, legal area and hire people to properly take care of them, or find homes for most of them, though I wouldn't limit her to four if she can handle them decently.

 

On the other hand, if her neighbors are calling Animal Control behind her back or feeding them antifreeze to poison them, then her neighbors ought to be made to drink the stuff and see how it makes them feel. I may agree that she has too many cats and too little assistance to take care of them, but I do not hold with any kind of animal cruelty at all. You think it's okay to poison animals just because you don't like them? You drink the poison. Do you beat your pets? Let somebody beat you and see how you like it. See how you would like being tossed out a car window or left out in 30 degree weather in the rain.

 

So while I agree that the lady needs to get some help with her cats, I also strongly say that her neighbors better leave them alone and not hurt them. For one thing, this lady obviously feels that nobody can take better care of them than she can or love them more.  I understand that feeling because I feel the same way and lose sleep over any I see that I think need loving.;

At no point in the segment featuring the cat lady and her neighbors did I hear any allegation that the cats were being beatn, or tossed out the window,or left in the rain. Are you projecting something from your own experience or from another news story onto this particular one?

It's quite selfish and downright abhorrent  of this woman to dispense with consideration over others and do whatever she pleases. Are you not a believer of needing to balance the individual's wants and needs with the larger group? Her neighbors have every right to be unhappy if her cats are defecating and urinating in their yards. And I'm sure you're well aware that cats will do what they will.

Cats are lovely, adorable creatues, but that gives nobody the right to create filthy living conditions for the people living in the shared area. Please don't make this issue about animal cruelty and the worthiness of cats and animals in general--the problem is that the lady is downright SELFISH.
 
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November 15, 2006, 6:48 pm PST

11/15 When Too Much is ... Too Much

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I also have a "hoarding" problem.  It's not that I don't want to get rid of most of what I have piled in my home, but I just don't know where to start, so I don't start at all.  I have started and stopped so many times!  I'm great at lists.  I feel like I have to have a plan in order to start.  My children are now grown and are embarrassed by our lifestyle.  They don't want to bring their girlfriends over, and who can blame them! 

 

If I clean one area, where do I go with the things that need to be kept?  I have bought tub after tub to organize my stuff, but my family says that all I'm doing is shifting piles. 

 

I don't want to live the rest of my life this way, either.  I wish that there was more compassion for this problem.  This message board itself shows that there is more compassion for a bunch of cats(who are great, mind you) than there is for a human who wants help, but does not know how to get it.  My own family is an example of this.  "All you have to do is get rid of everything!" They don't understand that the reason we have anxiety getting rid of stuff is that we don't know ourselves what we would be getting rid of!  What if it IS important! 

 

 Also, the embarrassment is so hard to overcome.  This is something that I thought I would know how to do by now.  I am 46 years old.  This should be easy.  Most people can keep there houses reasonably clean.  What is different about me that I can't?

 Hi, yes, I agree: it's frustrating to see cats get much more sympathy and understanding than a human being who has an anxiety problem.

From your post and others, and of course the show, I think I'm beginning to understand the root of the hoarding problem. It seems to me that hoarders are trying to control the unknowns of their environment by hoarding. Everyone to some extent feels a need to control their environment. I think the difference between hoarders and non-hoarders is that non-hoarders are better at prioritizing and organizing  things and tasks.  It seems to me that non-hoarders see that EVERYTHING is important, and hence the need to hang on to everything.

I'm being an armchair therapist, so take my post with a grain of salt.

I do think that what you should do is contact professional help. I know that there are professional clutter-cleaners out there; however, I don't that one fell swoop of cleaning out your clutter will get to the root of your hoarding. I think it would be a good idea to see what a therapist or psychologist has to say about the matter.
 
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November 15, 2006, 7:05 pm PST

A quick Google search of hoarding syndrome--

--turned up this article at

http://www.ocfoundation.org/1005/m100a_002.htm

It's brief and on the clinical side, but I find it very interesting that it says, "it appears that people with compulsive hoarding syndrome have unique deficits in problem solving and information processing."

I'm sorry if that sounds condescending, but it seems to have a ring of truth to it.

And there's also a Compulsive Hoarding web site at

http://www.ocfoundation.org/hoarding/about-hoarding/compulsive-hoarding-syndrome-introduction.php


 
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November 17, 2006, 5:48 pm PST

Intelligence is NOT gender-specific

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 ..or perhaps understanding is a better word. We DO live in a patriarchy. One in four  children are sexually molested--usually females by males. So it is not just your older female family members' personal experience that leads them to mistrust men. We are living in out-of-balance barbaric times.

When women take back their personal power from men and start using their Goddess given abilities to use their right brain , intuition and psychic abilities, and stop making men and male values their gods, then things will start to go back into balance. Women will KNOW who to trust, will have the strength and courage to protect themselves and their children and to insist on truth of all kinds--especially emotional truth. They will have access to higher wisdom and will assert it to make the world a better place. Bishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa said it and Oprah seconded it..."Women should run the world". I would qualify that to be "Women using their full feminine powers and asserting true feminine values should run the world."

Life will be very different when the Feminine comes back into power and when the masculine (intellect) learns to serve her rather than dominate her. It IS coming, but we all need to work on it to bring it in.

The women in your family are in an understandable rage and unfortunately have generalized their hatred of SOME   specific men to all men. But there is some real justification for their suspicions of most men. There ARE a lot of abusers out there. Oprah knows it. Dr. Phil denies it. She says one in four children are sexually molested. He says one in sixteen thousand. I believe her.
 "Life will be very different when the Feminine comes back into power and when the masculine (intellect) learns to serve her rather than dominate her."

What??? Are you kidding me? Are you implying that the intellect is mainly prominent in males only, whereas women are mainly ruled by their intuition and "emotional wisdom?"

Give me a BREAK, lady! And I will bet all the tea in Sri Lanka that you're a lady, and maybe you just took a class in Women's Studies, and that while you think you're advocating feminism and the rights of women, you're simply REINFORCING STEREOTYPES with this nonsensical spiel.

Women and men are not inherenlty better than each other. Grief only comes when people like you think the two sexes should be pitted against each other. That is hugely absurd and destructive. Women and men are all human beings, and complement and need each other. Don't confuse the crappiness of individuals with the crappiness of an entire sex. There are bad men out there, AND there are also plenty of bad women, too.
 
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November 21, 2006, 2:13 pm PST

I'm a princess EVERYDAY

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 I am so tired of hearing about how women dream of their wedding from the time they are 5 years old and, therefore, they should be given whatever they want.  Instead we should demand that women move their focus from one big party to the marriage. 

While I am a woman, I did not spend my whole life dreaming about being princess for a day.  To me, the wedding is the one day when the bride and grooms families and friends mix.  In this day and age when people move all over the country, the wedding may be the only time this happens.  So it is an important day. 

But the point of the wedding is the marriage.  This means the day is about both of the parties equally (sorry brides, you have to share the day equally).  This also means the wedding event itself should have the stamp of both the bride and the groom (sorry grooms, you have to be equally involved).  It is a major test of how you will behave as a couple whether you look out for each other's wants, whether you will be a responsible manager of the family's budget and whether you have the same priorities.  It should be treated it as such.

And Dr. Phil and Robin, please stop acting like it is okay for brides to make this day all about themselves.  Admittedly, it has become acceptable, but it isnt right.  It is a shame, and we dont need to encourage it.  

 I must "third" this sentiment as well!

I am getting married next September, and have had it up to **here** [raises arm above head] with people telling me, "It's your [meaning me, the bride] day!"

Baloney! If it is all about the bride, then what is a groom needed for? Maybe brides today should just plunk their grooms in front of an XBox or Sony Playstation, in a little sideroom at the reception, where the kids usually go to play. Meanwhile, over dinner and dancing, everyone can oooo and ahhhh over the bride like she's Princess Di.

I refuse to be treated this way--and by implication, have my fiance treated (ignored) this way. I am having one matron of honor to help me out with preparations the day of--i.e., no gazillion bridesmaids; I see NOTHING wrong with getting flowers from the supermarket; though I have yet to shop for it, I really want to avoid paying even over $100 for a dress (how realistic that might be, I'm not sure). I am already a self-made princess (*wink and smile*) so why do I need a huge poofy dress that I'll wear for only one day to feel like one, and have people treat me like one?

Most importantly, my fiance, his family, mine, and I are collaborating on this party together, because teamwork is most appropriate for planning an event that's merging two lives and two familes together.

Anyway, sorry to get on my preachy soapbox, but this show has given me a perfect opportunity to vent. To comment on the show, I think the first couple's marriage--while off to a shakey start--has good potential and seems mostly stable. Unfortunately, it seems to me that the second couple--however attractive they are--doesn't seem to be off to a favorable start for a happy marriage.
 

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