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October 17, 2008, 10:10 am PDT

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Dear Dr. Phil,

 

Thank you for the way you help people through your show.  I am especially grateful that you are doing a show about online gaming addictions.  I have a 38 yr. old son who has been addicted for over four years now.  His life is completely shattered because of his addiction.  His marriage of nine years disolved, he hasn't worked for four years, and he has no life behond his computer game, World of Warcraft.  He is in complete denial that he has any problems other than depression, which I believe was brought on by his excessive gaming habit.  My son has a masters degree and was a successful manager of a huge corporation before he got hooked to online gaming.  He is not the person he used to be!  I am so grateful for the help, advise and support I have received  form the group, Olganon.  People, including the medical community, don't understand how destructive this addiction is to the people caught up in it and how it affects their family.  I trust your program will give the much needed knowlege and attention about this devastating affliction.

God bless you Dr. Phil!

 
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October 21, 2008, 10:27 am PDT

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It isn't just you but I find it funny when people say  "my son has been addicted to the game for over four years now."  Unless he played beta he couldn't have.  It isn't quite 4 yrs yet.  Then end of Novemeber is 4 yrs.  Sorry for splitting hairs on that. 

Devastating affliction?  No, but for some it might be.  Everyone who plays WOW isn't addicted.

You are correct about the dates for addiction to WoW.  My son was still functioning in his job and marriage but was playing Everquest.  Just as he became bored with Everquest and Wow came olong it attracted him so he switched to Wow and  that is when the trouble started.  Sorry if I left the impression he has been on Wow for "over four years."  I should have said he has been addicted to "online gaming" for over four years now.  The point I was trying to make is how excessive gaming has ruined his life.  I am not trying to blame the gaming as my son has always been a gamer and yet was able to function very well in rl.   For some reason Wow is the game that hooked him and his life is destroyed right now because he chose that particular game.  Once he started playing WoW he lost interest in rl and his vitual world was all that mattered.  He continues to deny he has a problem and yet his whole life revolves around WoW.  Unfortunately, he is not the only one trapped in a virtual world and these people desparately need help.  The problem is... where can twe go to get the necessary help?  We as parents, spouses, siblings, friends of addicted gamers are desperate because we are trying to deal with this problem ourselves.  Who would have thought online gaming would turn into an addiction?  Certainly not us!!!  And that is exactly what we are facing because people don't believe it is possible.  Groups like Olganon are our only source at this time and we would sink under the strain if it wasn't for them, but we need more.  That is what we are trying to achieve... professional help that can concentrate on helping our loved ones break free of their addictions.
 
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October 21, 2008, 7:05 pm PDT

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Judging from your responses, you seem to be a very condescending and angry person.  This is not conducive to helping the situation.

That being said, if you read the posts here defending gaming in general, I'm sure you will find that nobody is defending the excessive behavior.  It is a big problem, and it is a tough nut to crack.  It can take years to make progress against the problem.  The real issue here is that there is no single magic bullet that cures all ills for all excessive gamers.  The problem is unique to each excessive gamer. 

It's not really even a sign of immaturity, per se, so attacking it like it is purely immaturity or a refusal to grow up is absolutely the wrong approach.  Attacking is only going to give the excessive gamer yet another reason to retreat into the game world.

I have a few points for you all to consider based on my personal experience with this issue.

1. Know thy enemy.
This is absolutely crucial.  Talk to the excessive gamer about the game they play.  Find out what it is about the game that interests him/her so much.  You may, and probably will, meet with some resistance at first because the excessive gamer may be embarrassed about playing the game.  Be persistent.  Research the game a little.  Learn how it works.  The more you know about what you are trying to beat, the better you will be able to beat it.

2. Never go on the attack.
Like I said earlier, attacking the excessive gamer is the absolute worst thing you can do.  You can't embarrass an excessive gamer out of playing the game, but you can definitely embarrass him/her into playing it even more.  It adds one more layer you have to dig through to get at the root of the problem and may even make it impossible for you to help.  You may have to go to outside sources to help you if you slip and go on the attack.

3. Positive reinforcement is the key.
Don't misunderstand me here.  I don't mean positive reinforcement for playing the game.  I mean positive reinforcement for doing things outside of the game.  This is where it gets difficult because each excessive gamer gets something different out of the game that is positive for him/her.  That's why you must talk to him/her about the game and find out what interests him/her so much. 

For example, some people play certain games like WoW because the quest system is purely positive reinforcement.  There are no negative outcomes for failing to complete a quest.  You get to try again and again until you succeed.  This is where your prior research comes in handy.  Learn how the quest system works and try to emulate it.  You may even have to use terminology from the game.  Give him/her a "quest" and tell him/her what he/she will get when it is completed and follow through with the reward.  This will be a slow process involving some trial and error because the reward must be something that interests him/her, but does not involve the game. 

For others, it may be the ability to socialize without any real consequences.  Anonymity can do wonders for a gamer's ego and confidence level.  This is definitely a tough nut to crack.  You should consult a psychologist (not a psychiatrist) to determine how to proceed on this one.  I'm especially familiar with this reason for excessive gaming, because it was my reason.  I had a deeprooted fear of socializing with other people, especially people my age, because of some things that happened when I was a kid.  It wasn't until I was able to come to terms with it that I was able to kick my excessive gaming problem.  This is a long, hard road to walk and will take years to overcome. Patience and persistence are vital to success.

4. Remember that excessive gaming is not the disease, it is a symptom.
Related to point number 3, excessive gaming is not the ultimate problem.  It is a sign of a deeper problem, whether it's a lack of positive reinforcement in real life, feelings of powerlessness in real life, social insecurities, various phobias, or whatever the case may be.  For me, it was a combination of social anxiety and a deeprooted distrust of new people because of some things that happened when I was a kid.  It's easy to blame the game because it's an obvious indicator and takes no effort.  Like any other excessive compulsion, there is a reason behind it.  If you find the reason and deal with it, the excessive gaming problem goes away.  Just like any other excessive compulsion, there's a good chance the excessive gamer will "fall off the wagon".  It's important to stick with him/her and help him/her get back on the wagon again.  Patience and persistence are the keys.

5. Have a support network ready.
Not just for the excessive gamer, but for you as well.  Trying to help an excessive gamer kick the habit is a massive undertaking and will put a strain on you.  Have an outlet other than the excessive gamer that can help you vent or take your mind off of it for a while.  Have someone you can ask for advice.  Have someone you can go out and have some fun with so you can get rid of some of the stress.

6. Be prepared to accept some hard facts.
It's going to sound harsh, and may not necessarily be true in all cases, but the excessive gamer may not be the only one that needs to change some behaviors.  Sometimes the excessive gamer retreats into the game world because of family issues.  Consulting a psychologist specializing in family counseling is probably your best bet here.

This is a tough nut to crack, and I wish all of you who are dealing with this issue the best of luck in getting to the root of the problem and getting it resolved.

Signed,

A recovered excessive gamer turned casual gamer.
Thanks Chapkom for your excellent advise.  It is very helpful and I will definitely use it.
 

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