12/18 Wrongly Accused
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7Posted by: f300ke
Posted on: 2002-12-18 10:49:06
They are very lucky really, my girlfriend and I haved lived together for 2 an a half years in Maryland, with her 2 childern. I was accused of touching her 4 year old daughter buy her father, who lives in New Jersey. The state of NJ. took coustudy of the child and in a 2 week investigaten, where no charges have been filed on me or her mother, the judge gave coustudy to the father, has told the mother that to have visitation she must move back to NJ, brake all ties and never see me again and can never take her child to Md. again. The mother most also go through a psychological evaluation because she is in denial that this has happened, because the child told her mother that I did not touch her, it was the girlfriend of the father that touched her. They waited 4 days to interview the child about this and interviewed her in front of the father and the girlfriend. My worst worry about all of this is that they have put the child in the home of the real abuser and we can't do anything about it, if the mother tries to find out the truth, she won't get to see her daughter because it is just her denial. I can't get legal help because you can't get a public defender in Md until you are charged, Legal Aid doesn't do crimal cases and I have no money for a private lawyer. I have passed a polygraph and the state isn't going to charge me, but I have all ready been sentanced.
not quite clear
Posted by: inpeace
Posted on: 2002-12-18 11:20:09
was the 4 yr old living legally with Girlfriend? who had legal custody? was it joint/shared? do you have any sort of felony record? when did this happen? where is your girlfriend now?
Posted by: inpeace
Posted on: 2002-12-18 11:20:09
was the 4 yr old living legally with Girlfriend? who had legal custody? was it joint/shared? do you have any sort of felony record? when did this happen? where is your girlfriend now?
Posted by: f300ke
Posted on: 2002-12-18 13:21:34
yes she was legally living with my girlfriend and she had custody in Md, the child was a legal resadent of Md, Md was collecting $60 a week from the father in NJ, witch he was $1159 behind on. No I have nothing on my record not even a trafic ticket. My girlfriend is now in NJ, she had to quite her job and leave her home to move to NJ so that she can see her daughter.
so, are you broken up, or....
Posted by: inpeace
Posted on: 2002-12-18 13:45:21
Because this case was handled with legal errors that could be challenged, except that Girlfriend would need to pay a GOOD private attorney to get through this, since new court orders are already in effect; requires a legal motion and hearing. Super expensive. But legal aid or a public defender is not going to succeed in this manner. AND the child protection services in NJ is certainly not going to inform Girlfriend of her rights.
Posted by: inpeace
Posted on: 2002-12-18 13:45:21
Because this case was handled with legal errors that could be challenged, except that Girlfriend would need to pay a GOOD private attorney to get through this, since new court orders are already in effect; requires a legal motion and hearing. Super expensive. But legal aid or a public defender is not going to succeed in this manner. AND the child protection services in NJ is certainly not going to inform Girlfriend of her rights.
Posted by: f300ke
Posted on: 2002-12-18 22:57:43
My girlfriend's Aunt is paying for a private attorney and before she started paying she had me take a polygraph test, that I passed. The court said that the poly test only put my girlfriend farther in denial. That and the fact that when her daughter told her that I did not touch her, the father's grilfriend was the one that touched her, my girlfriend told the caseworker. It took them 4 days to investigate that and when they did, they called them 2 hours before to tell them that they would be there and why and the father and girlfriend where both present. I wounder what she said.
I'm the one that can't get an attorney. They read me my rights and it said that I had the right to an attorney, free even WRONG not in Md. I can't get one till they charge me, but they can go to a judge and tell him they have an open investigation and I am a danger. No way to prove I didn't do anything, they won't except or even look at the poly test.
Nothing at this point really matters to me, but the fact that, that little girl is in the house where she was abused. I don't care at this point what they do to me, just get her out of that house.
My life while never be the same. Even if they said tomarrow we messed up sorry, I don't think I would ever want to be alone with my little buddy. That was what I told her she should call me one day she asked what I was. She said Mommy is Mommy, my Daddy is my Daddy and Brian is my brother, Frank what are you? I said I'm your buddy. I got to Thanks to everyo
Believe In God
Posted by: gaitorbait
Posted on: 2003-03-05 03:49:28
I have experienced your pain. The family court system is not fair unless you have 20,000 -30,000. My daughter has tried to kill herself 3 times since living with her father and his new wife. I cry every night because I am so scared that the next phone call will be that she has seceeded in killing herself. I just hope God watches over our children, because you will not get a fair shake in family court. My prayers our with you
Posted by: gaitorbait
Posted on: 2003-03-05 03:49:28
I have experienced your pain. The family court system is not fair unless you have 20,000 -30,000. My daughter has tried to kill herself 3 times since living with her father and his new wife. I cry every night because I am so scared that the next phone call will be that she has seceeded in killing herself. I just hope God watches over our children, because you will not get a fair shake in family court. My prayers our with you
URGENT
Posted by: livinghell
Posted on: 2003-05-30 18:17:32
lIVING IN THE SAME HELL. PLEASE TELL ME YOU LIVE IN HOWARD COUNTY,MD. EITHER WAY PLEASE CONTACT @ rkamensek@comcast.net. Urgent!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: livinghell
Posted on: 2003-05-30 18:17:32
lIVING IN THE SAME HELL. PLEASE TELL ME YOU LIVE IN HOWARD COUNTY,MD. EITHER WAY PLEASE CONTACT @ rkamensek@comcast.net. Urgent!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: lbessey
Posted on: 2002-12-18 11:39:07
I have been wrongly accused of child abuse towards my step son by burning "out" his eyes with cigarettes. The ex-girlfriend was crazy enough to think that this would stick without any scars, marks or the simple fact that he can see. The problem is though that she told the 4 year old to say this. The child can not come to our house because she has made him terrified of me. He will run from me and lock himself in the closet in sheer panick. I have 3yr & 10yr old girls that have to witness this. We have had 5 restraining orders against her, a trespassing order and several phone harrassment charges served on her. After seeing this show I thank God that I have not had to go through the court systems to the extent of what others have but my reputation in this small town is ruined because of her. Currently we have filed for full custody of the child,now 5 yrs old and we have an excellent chance of getting him. She has been in a lot of trouble with drinking and drugs and her family has finally come forward in our defense. My concern is that these women or men who accuse people of child abuse and then are found to be lying, why aren't the charged with psychological abuse or false accusations...immediatly? What is wrong with the system?
Good Luck
Posted by: rothouse
Posted on: 2002-12-18 12:02:43
I wish you good luck in your attempt of getting custody of the child. In Florida there is a law for parents who set a pattern in false allegations, yet I havent seen this ever done in my case. The law wansnt in effect at the beginning of my allegations. But even if it was I am most certain that it would have never been used, and if it ever was as you can see by my post a judge said it was within a parents right, yes I said right to accuse if they felt they needed to do so. I thought I lived in the USA, when someone would be punished for lying,especially when they lied to the law. I have yet been able to figure out what is wrong with the picture. Good luck!
Posted by: rothouse
Posted on: 2002-12-18 12:02:43
I wish you good luck in your attempt of getting custody of the child. In Florida there is a law for parents who set a pattern in false allegations, yet I havent seen this ever done in my case. The law wansnt in effect at the beginning of my allegations. But even if it was I am most certain that it would have never been used, and if it ever was as you can see by my post a judge said it was within a parents right, yes I said right to accuse if they felt they needed to do so. I thought I lived in the USA, when someone would be punished for lying,especially when they lied to the law. I have yet been able to figure out what is wrong with the picture. Good luck!
God knows who the innocent are!
Posted by: kbear54
Posted on: 2002-12-19 12:28:20
It's easy to see how the guilty can get away with what they do, for example look at how easy Bill Clinton got away with what he did to Monica Lewinsky. Was his reputation ruined? Not one bit. Was her reputation ruined? Yes and it will be tarnished for the rest of her life. Why was he still allowed to run this country? Why wasn't he punished for what he did? Even with all the so-called "necessary proof" that was produced. What this said to me and others was that proof is not proof, lying, adultery and molesting a child is legal. The laws in this country seem to not be designed to help the innocent victims but to insure that the guilty are protected.
Posted by: kbear54
Posted on: 2002-12-19 12:28:20
It's easy to see how the guilty can get away with what they do, for example look at how easy Bill Clinton got away with what he did to Monica Lewinsky. Was his reputation ruined? Not one bit. Was her reputation ruined? Yes and it will be tarnished for the rest of her life. Why was he still allowed to run this country? Why wasn't he punished for what he did? Even with all the so-called "necessary proof" that was produced. What this said to me and others was that proof is not proof, lying, adultery and molesting a child is legal. The laws in this country seem to not be designed to help the innocent victims but to insure that the guilty are protected.
falsley accused
Posted by: titus4
Posted on: 2002-12-18 19:43:51
I agree with you that the person responsible for making the false accusation should be punished, the state will not punish people that make false accusations because the system is the most guilty of these injustices. The Govt. is in denial.
Posted by: titus4
Posted on: 2002-12-18 19:43:51
I agree with you that the person responsible for making the false accusation should be punished, the state will not punish people that make false accusations because the system is the most guilty of these injustices. The Govt. is in denial.
Dr. Phil Challenge
Posted by: gggdad
Posted on: 2002-12-19 12:09:30
This topic sounds like a good one for Dr. Phil's show. Let's challenge him to bring on guests such as a congressman, a prominent family lawer, a Judge (if they dare),a young over-zealous prosecuting attorney, a couple of custody evaluators (if they dare, you know a young over-zealous type that charges big bucks for their service), a police officer experienced with this issue and another falsely accused victim or two. Let's challenge Dr. Phil to make some sense with all of this. Investigate and disclose the discontinuites in our "system". Let those who represent this "system" explain themselves and their actions. Propose the question "why are not these people who continually accuse falsely severley penalized?" what do ya think Dr. Phil?
Posted by: gggdad
Posted on: 2002-12-19 12:09:30
This topic sounds like a good one for Dr. Phil's show. Let's challenge him to bring on guests such as a congressman, a prominent family lawer, a Judge (if they dare),a young over-zealous prosecuting attorney, a couple of custody evaluators (if they dare, you know a young over-zealous type that charges big bucks for their service), a police officer experienced with this issue and another falsely accused victim or two. Let's challenge Dr. Phil to make some sense with all of this. Investigate and disclose the discontinuites in our "system". Let those who represent this "system" explain themselves and their actions. Propose the question "why are not these people who continually accuse falsely severley penalized?" what do ya think Dr. Phil?
Dr. Phil challenge x 2
Posted by: newman2916
Posted on: 2002-12-19 20:37:01
What an awesome idea!!...I for one would love to see such a panel of guests as these....but seriously I believe the false accusor should have the hottest seat of all...I feel that they know exactly what they are doing as in our case and she has said that no one will ever do anything to her because she has a handicap child who coincidentally she chose to use in her child abuse accusation against my husband...why? one might ask.... because she speaks for the child in doing so she minipulates the system and the sad fact is...she gets away with it using her handicap son as her "tool"....as I read in one of the earlier messages....God knows the truth....
Posted by: newman2916
Posted on: 2002-12-19 20:37:01
What an awesome idea!!...I for one would love to see such a panel of guests as these....but seriously I believe the false accusor should have the hottest seat of all...I feel that they know exactly what they are doing as in our case and she has said that no one will ever do anything to her because she has a handicap child who coincidentally she chose to use in her child abuse accusation against my husband...why? one might ask.... because she speaks for the child in doing so she minipulates the system and the sad fact is...she gets away with it using her handicap son as her "tool"....as I read in one of the earlier messages....God knows the truth....
I know how you feel...
Posted by: akasha59
Posted on: 2003-10-23 18:23:27
I was accused of sexually abusing my half-sister when she was 4 and I was 14. Her mother made the accusations, and the thing was that during the visitation in which it supposedly happened, I was a "run-away" and the police didn't find me until after my sis had gone home. Her mother has always hated me, and this was just her attempt to hurt me, and I thank God that charges were never pressed. What really hurt was that once she found out I wasn't even there, all of a sudden CPS is calling, and now it's happened 4 months prior, and she has my sis trained to answer most of the questions with "Ra-Ra touched me". My dad watched the video of the interview and said it was painfully obvious that she had been coached. Even though my sis doesn’t remember any of it, it still affects her. Here it is 6 years later and I’m scared to death that her mother may try some crap like that again because she can convince my sister of anything. She believes that if her mother says it’s true then it is. It’s hard to explain to a 10 year old just why I flip out if she is staying with me and my grandma and walks in on me while I’m changing, and why after my grandma goes to bed I don’t like her being in my room and won’t stay in the living room with her. So I’m totally with you on how these people who make false accusations should be punished. And I wish I would have thought of it back then, but can CPS explain why she would move her child back into the same house as me a year later? I’d love to ask her?
Posted by: akasha59
Posted on: 2003-10-23 18:23:27
I was accused of sexually abusing my half-sister when she was 4 and I was 14. Her mother made the accusations, and the thing was that during the visitation in which it supposedly happened, I was a "run-away" and the police didn't find me until after my sis had gone home. Her mother has always hated me, and this was just her attempt to hurt me, and I thank God that charges were never pressed. What really hurt was that once she found out I wasn't even there, all of a sudden CPS is calling, and now it's happened 4 months prior, and she has my sis trained to answer most of the questions with "Ra-Ra touched me". My dad watched the video of the interview and said it was painfully obvious that she had been coached. Even though my sis doesn’t remember any of it, it still affects her. Here it is 6 years later and I’m scared to death that her mother may try some crap like that again because she can convince my sister of anything. She believes that if her mother says it’s true then it is. It’s hard to explain to a 10 year old just why I flip out if she is staying with me and my grandma and walks in on me while I’m changing, and why after my grandma goes to bed I don’t like her being in my room and won’t stay in the living room with her. So I’m totally with you on how these people who make false accusations should be punished. And I wish I would have thought of it back then, but can CPS explain why she would move her child back into the same house as me a year later? I’d love to ask her?
RESOURCES
Posted by: dschrist
Posted on: 2002-12-18 15:23:41
There are many resources for those falsely accused of child abuse. There is and organization called VOCAL (Victims of child abuse laws) and the most active chapter is in New York. (VOCAL_NEWYORK@yahoogroups.com)
Also, please see a website called www.abuse-excuse.com
Being falsely accused of child abuse is a special kind of hell. Good luck.
Posted by: dschrist
Posted on: 2002-12-18 15:23:41
There are many resources for those falsely accused of child abuse. There is and organization called VOCAL (Victims of child abuse laws) and the most active chapter is in New York. (VOCAL_NEWYORK@yahoogroups.com)
Also, please see a website called www.abuse-excuse.com
Being falsely accused of child abuse is a special kind of hell. Good luck.
my heart is feeling your pain
Posted by: kss712
Posted on: 2002-12-18 16:41:30
hello, i can understand what you have gone thru..my exhusband was accused by his exwife of fondling her son by a previous relationship, and he was also accused of the same thing with their son. the claim of a "recovered memory" was the basis of all the hell we went thru....and just like david and destiny we were also the newlywed made-for-each-other-couple.. we were so much in love and my husband's son said he wanted to live with us, and we started custody procedings, and then the exwife thru out the sexual molestation charge...a nightmare..we won the suit, but lost the marriage..we still talk to each other in love, but the damage was great..some women are very evil beings and will have to stand before God and answer to Him. thank you k
Posted by: kss712
Posted on: 2002-12-18 16:41:30
hello, i can understand what you have gone thru..my exhusband was accused by his exwife of fondling her son by a previous relationship, and he was also accused of the same thing with their son. the claim of a "recovered memory" was the basis of all the hell we went thru....and just like david and destiny we were also the newlywed made-for-each-other-couple.. we were so much in love and my husband's son said he wanted to live with us, and we started custody procedings, and then the exwife thru out the sexual molestation charge...a nightmare..we won the suit, but lost the marriage..we still talk to each other in love, but the damage was great..some women are very evil beings and will have to stand before God and answer to Him. thank you k
accuseduncle
Posted by: 77alenna77
Posted on: 2002-12-18 23:11:22
my uncle has been accused of sexually molesting a little girl about a month ago.The childs mother said that the D.H.S was handling this case but they have not done anything yet.The childrens dad said that they could go back and visit my grandmother as long as the children stayed away from my uncle which lives with my grandma.Now if someone did that to my children i would not let them go back over there i really think the childs father did it.
Posted by: 77alenna77
Posted on: 2002-12-18 23:11:22
my uncle has been accused of sexually molesting a little girl about a month ago.The childs mother said that the D.H.S was handling this case but they have not done anything yet.The childrens dad said that they could go back and visit my grandmother as long as the children stayed away from my uncle which lives with my grandma.Now if someone did that to my children i would not let them go back over there i really think the childs father did it.
wrongly accused 21 times in 7 years
Posted by: rothouse
Posted on: 2002-12-18 11:19:47
I just caught the very end of the show.Iwished I would have seen the whole show.I along with the bioological dad have been accused in 21 different allegations.They range from starving,biting,drowning smoothering,sexual abuse,beatingand breaking bones.All of the allegations have been proved false. Yet the biologicl mom and my 2 step-children have continued to say they are true.There has never been any marks or anything of the sort on either child.Both children are considered educatable mentally handicaped.I am the step-mom and did also loose custody of my daughter for a number of years,she did come back to me only after her dad passed away.To top this both children eventualy came to live with us.Let me tell you boy this was so hard.Not having my daughter with me but,yet raising 2 children who helped with their mom accuse me of awful things.I did go to the state attorneys office and they took the case but,the judge said it was within the mothers right to accuse if she felt the need to do so.Even tho there was evidence showing a pattern of false accucations.I then went to a private attorney who siad I couldnt sue for defamation of character cince I didnt have a character to defame,I wasnt in the spotlight or didnt own my own business,etc.Yet I only lost my daughter during this.So go figure. There isnt any protection for the innocent! Only for the one who continues to mentally abuse thier own children by constantly saying their father and I are abusing them.
Posted by: rothouse
Posted on: 2002-12-18 11:19:47
I just caught the very end of the show.Iwished I would have seen the whole show.I along with the bioological dad have been accused in 21 different allegations.They range from starving,biting,drowning smoothering,sexual abuse,beatingand breaking bones.All of the allegations have been proved false. Yet the biologicl mom and my 2 step-children have continued to say they are true.There has never been any marks or anything of the sort on either child.Both children are considered educatable mentally handicaped.I am the step-mom and did also loose custody of my daughter for a number of years,she did come back to me only after her dad passed away.To top this both children eventualy came to live with us.Let me tell you boy this was so hard.Not having my daughter with me but,yet raising 2 children who helped with their mom accuse me of awful things.I did go to the state attorneys office and they took the case but,the judge said it was within the mothers right to accuse if she felt the need to do so.Even tho there was evidence showing a pattern of false accucations.I then went to a private attorney who siad I couldnt sue for defamation of character cince I didnt have a character to defame,I wasnt in the spotlight or didnt own my own business,etc.Yet I only lost my daughter during this.So go figure. There isnt any protection for the innocent! Only for the one who continues to mentally abuse thier own children by constantly saying their father and I are abusing them.
False accusations.....
Posted by: dorothybae
Posted on: 2002-12-18 11:26:32
I am very grateful that the problem of false accusations has been given attention on Dr. Phil's show. When one is accused, people DO tend to "assume" guilt.
This country's Child Protective Services system is like a rabid dog that needs to be put down. I would like to direct your veiwers to www.familyrightsassociation.com for more information on false accusations of child abuse, advice on what to do when accused, etc.....
Dorothy Baez
Posted by: dorothybae
Posted on: 2002-12-18 11:26:32
I am very grateful that the problem of false accusations has been given attention on Dr. Phil's show. When one is accused, people DO tend to "assume" guilt.
This country's Child Protective Services system is like a rabid dog that needs to be put down. I would like to direct your veiwers to www.familyrightsassociation.com for more information on false accusations of child abuse, advice on what to do when accused, etc.....
Dorothy Baez
