12/16 Girls Misbehaving

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    Peer Pressure outweighs Parental Teaching
    Posted by: bevbeck
    Posted on: 2003-12-16 09:03:02


    I am a teacher of middle school and high school students. To the father that says he raised his daughter with the proper moral values...once she's away from you, all your teaching goes out the window...sometimes. I find that kids with the lowest self esteem will do anything to gain peer acceptance. They may be the model children at home, but once away from mommy and daddy, these children will behave in ways their parents would never believe.
    Children between the ages of 12-16 rely more on what their peers think than what their parents think. Those who have higher levels of self esteem and confidence are more likely to do what they believe is right over what they see others do.
    Parents...wake up! you don't see your kids at school---I Do! We must teach our children how to stand up to peer pressure (even non-verbal peer pressure). The more confidence and self esteem a child has approaching their pre-teen years, the more likely they are to stand their ground. Unfortunately, many pre-teens lack self confidence and are looking for acceptance from not only their friends of the same sex, but(for teen girls) they want to be accepted by the opposite sex as well. As adults, we know sex bracelets are degrading, but to the teens, it is a way of being popular. PARENTS...OPEN YOUR EYES!!!
      It Has Nothing To Do With Bracelets
      Posted by: ld192002
      Posted on: 2003-12-16 09:31:50


      Im a 20 year old college student and I can recall when i was in high school my sophmore year i had to take the late bus home one day, which at my school the late bus was the elementry bus. On that bus i was appauld. all that the little kids talked about was how they spent there weekend alone with there like boy friend or girlfriend and how they spent the whole day just trying different sexual things. Im sorry but this was like 5 years ago and they were doing it then. These bracelets have nothing to do with it. it is a lack of theaching from the parents, and a lack of respondsibility on the scholls part. It should not take a fad or jewlry to get the school involved, The should be teaching there young kids the pros and cons of sex they should be informed on the situation not just diceplind. How can you diceplin a child on some thing that they were not taught about. Granted they do learn it on there own but these children are to youngand it is the parents fault but the school is very much respondsibul to. Your kids are at school for 8 hours a day, who sees your child more you or there teacher? Remeber they do sleep. how much time are you spending with your children, are you teaching them every thing that they need to know about sex or are you to "embaressed". There school is not going to teach them and there only disaplining them. take time to talk to your kids or you may be turn out to me a grandparent when your kid is only 12. Its not about the bracelets, its about
        Wow!!
        Posted by: debekm
        Posted on: 2003-12-16 09:52:32


        You said a lot - I wonder how much of it is from bad personal experience. I agree, this issue is not just about the bracelets, but about sex in general. And if they' are going to become sexually active, they will regardless of school code or parents attitudes. However, these bracelets are putting young girls in the position of innocently sending out messages that they are ready to be sexually active when this is absolutely not what they intend. They're kids - they don't understand the possible consequences if the wrong person 'reads' the message they are sending out. Our job as the adults is to intervene and protect them from themselves, if you will. If I was 13 or 16 I would object strongly to my parents forbidding the bracelet!! But I still would hope that when my parents see the train coming down the track, they'll get me the hell off that track, even if I don't see or hear that train -and even if I object to being moved!
          I agree
          Posted by: lawriekim
          Posted on: 2003-12-16 11:58:31


          I agree with you that the braceletts are not the cause of the sexual interest. I feel it is important for the schools to ban them for the mere fact that kids are going to wear them to fit in. In wearing the braceletts, they are sending a message that they are ready for sexual relations even if they truely don't feel that way. If someone rips one of the braceletts off, the child is then going to feel pressured to "pay up" with whatever sex act is required even if they don't want to. So, for the price of fitting in, they are paying with their morals. By banning the braceletts, it gives the kids who don't really want to participate in this activity a way to bow out without looking like a loser.
            What else should they ban?
            Posted by: pisces2179
            Posted on: 2003-12-16 13:01:51


            I am interested in knowing if you think they should ban other sexual things...like tight jeans, belly shirts, many fashion logos, that deal with sex, low ride jeans that show thong underware etc. I have taught in school that have ban items in the past. All it did there was led to a lot of time discussing what should be ban and not what should be taught.
              Appropriate dress for adult women in schools?
              Posted by: debrog3211
              Posted on: 2003-12-16 15:56:32


              Boys will certainly watch this show closely to see if they can see more leg from the woman wanting to ban bracelets!!!!!

              Does adult attire contribute to sexual arousal among students and contribute to sex in school?
                bracelets vs. mini mini skirt
                Posted by: paris38
                Posted on: 2003-12-17 11:29:50


                I'm a mom that had my three kids watch the show, I found it ironic that the first thing they notice of the woman, preaching morals and wanting to ban the bracelets, is HER short and seemingly uncomfortable mini skirt. Should we judge her on her clothing style and say that she is representing a provocative manner of dress? I would hope we wouldn't judge this woman on her dress just as I hope she wouldn't judge a child for wearing some silly kids bracelet in school and make the assumption that kids are "bad" because of how they dress. I remember that at one time not so long ago that showing your ankle was considered a terrible and vile thing. Have we not come past our victorian and closed minded thinking enough to think that kids are going to succumb to peer pressure whether they're wearing a bracelet or not? Both my daughters wore and are wearing these bracelets. One of them is 19 and she is a virgin with strong moral values who commented that she wouldn't toss her morals at the door over a bracelet. She wore these in H.S. when this was just coming out and she said she wouldn't stop wearing them just because some "silly kids" are talking about sex and associating it with an article of clothing. If you really want to know what your kids are like, my daughter says to show up at a school dance unannounced. Many a parent would be surprised at the "high moral values" they have instilled in their kids and what happens to them there. My eleven year old also wears these brac
                  You said it yourself...
                  Posted by: demachawo
                  Posted on: 2003-12-17 16:13:48


                  paris38, I am also a mom, of 3 girls and a boy, all adults now. You said yours had high values, then said parents should realize the morals disappear at the school door. Well, I offer that kids tell parents what will get them off their backs, but that the truth lies in how they present themselves, not just at home, but when you are not present. My kids were taught that to do as the crowd does implies conformity. So to do it and insist they don't agree with the community meaning puts them in a bad light. My girls did not wear short skirts, spaghetti straps or the like (yes, I walked into school to check, occasionally, until I knew my standards were theirs as well), or follow trends that implied they would do something they wouldn't. A kid has to be pretty strong to stand up against the crowd, and not many have that courage at that age. I believe the school has a responsibility not only to provide a safe environment for education, but to look for areas that conflict with that and remove it. ANYTHING that encourages kids to act sexy, think sexy, look sexy or...heaven forbid...be sexy, does not belong in school. As for the school official--If kids can't wear suggestive or revealing clothing, inappropriate logos, symbols or anything that takes their mind away from their real purpose for being in school, IT NEEDS TO BE BANNED. If the teachers are acting or dressing suggestively (maybe the superintendant does not dress that way in school, nor does she teach, so cut her a little s
                    Banning
                    Posted by: cat2212
                    Posted on: 2003-12-17 20:26:22


                    I just graduated highschool in June 2003. Since I was in Middle School the schoolboard has tried every way to control the type of clothes and acessories students wore because they thought it would prevent students from engaging in sexual acts. At first they banned shorts, spaghetti strap shirts, belly shirts,etc. But that didn't work, so then they decided to make students wear uniforms. And of course that didn't work either. Sex goes way beyond sexy clothes, bracelets or whatever. Children are and will continue having sex no matter if they dress sexy or not. Parents and schools can give so many restrictions to kids, but if they want to do it, they are going to do it no matter what they wear. Parents say that they teach their children good moral values, but that goes out the window when they want to fit in with their peers. Parents should not only teach them moral values, but how they can deal with peer presure. By telling your child that you're aware about what's going on in their lives, they will feel more comfortable to talk you about it. Let them know that it's OK to say no and tell them that sex is not something that "everyone is doing".
                      girls misbehaving.
                      Posted by: hapninnow
                      Posted on: 2003-12-18 12:42:31


                      I think everyone is missing the point on the dress issue. Whether to wear or not wear certain types of clothing in school ignores the basics of what is supposed to be going on at school. Certainly, some of it is socialization, but the kids are there to get a job done. And since it is a job, they should dress appropriately for the job. Wearing provocative clothing (boys or girls) causes children to not focus on school work.
                      In addition, in a perfect world, we could all walk around naked, and no one would care. But, since it is not a perfect world, and as one writer noticed, males are very visual creatures and notice EVERYTHING, even the short skirt on the female guest, which I confess I missed entirely (ever try to talk to a guy who has stopped in his tracks in front of a television screen?)proper dress on all students should be required in all schools.
                        I agree also...
                        Posted by: mackenziem
                        Posted on: 2003-12-22 10:47:57


                        Children are at school to learn - of course with some socialize. I think if these teenage girls would take a closer look at themself and realize that they really don't look all that attractive with those tight, tight pants and short, short shirts. They are just making the boys look and want them, but they just want them for one thing! But if they really want a boyfriend, a nice boyfriend, they will find they will get one when they put a a few more clothes!!!!! It makes them look a little more attractive!!!!!
                        not the issue
                        Posted by: plumgreen
                        Posted on: 2004-10-28 08:27:36


                        Whatever happened to kids getting to be kids? When I was in middle and high school, t-shirts, jeans, and the like were just fine for us to wear. Uniforms, while a noble idea, do not need to be forced on the youth of today quite so early. Yes, they will have to wear them at the job site, but school is not a "job": it is a learning center, a foundation. We go/went there in order to give ourselves a start at becoming productive members of society, not to become drooling and mindless drones! You want your kids to wear uniforms and have a job at the age of six? Send them to a military academy. Granted that I agree with the belly shirts, and the mini skirts, but if the rules are going to apply they need to apply to EVERYONE. Many schools that I attended gave special privileges to certain people because of the way they looked. I am a tall lean athletic attractive young woman, but because of that I never felt the need to show off my body to the general public. Although I do like to be attractive and even sexy, I do not believe that these things should be shared although I don't think that tight jeans should be banned and neither do I think that the uniforms would solve these problems with sex and rape or anything else. It always comes down to the simple fact that it's not the type of cereal or the box, it's the prize inside!!!
                  I totally agree with paris 38
                  Posted by: barbie1989
                  Posted on: 2003-12-18 22:26:08


                  To first start off my letter , i would like to say i totally agree with paris38. I think she just about said it all , and i honestly could'nt agree more with her. I don't think its right for the schools or administration to take away these bracelets , that in fact some kids like to wear just for fun! I am a 14 years old and i absolutely don't think that most of these kids are wearing them because they want to have sex , i mean , come on! When you have you dr.phil family on , dousen't thay kind of in a away teach you that sex is bad for teenagers and what consequence will come with that choice? I certainly have learned alot ,and i think parents should just trust thier kids and only trust them if they have taught them what sex is and how bad it can somtimes be for you both physically(stds , prengancy , etc.)and emotionally. My mom has taught me all about sex and i wouldnt consider sex until i was married and ready , and most of my friends feel the same way, and i think that its all because of thier parents , explain it to them not just in a short 5 min but actually explain what can happen. I dont mean to sound disrespectful to anybody or thier opinons but i just think i should speek for some teenagers including my friends.

                  P.s that chicks skirt was pretty short!!

                  thanks for reading,
                  *ashley from california
                    Agreed with barbie
                    Posted by: jackie_587
                    Posted on: 2003-12-22 20:43:22


                    I think the braclet/sex thing is garbage.I'am in high school and people wear those braclets in fact you can't walk 10 steps without seeing those braclets and i asked some people why they wear those braclets and they said because they where stylish or they liked them I told them the story about how they suppositly realated to sex and they said they never heard that story before. And even if they where its up to the parents to raise the child the right way and schools should teach more about sex instead of sheltering us from it like they do its a big bad world out there and i think that the woman that was agaist the braclets i don't think she has made the right desion on banning the braclet it is jewlery for god sake. I think it is garbage. The kids that want to have sex are going to find a way to have sex no matter how much you try to stop them they want to and no one is going to get in their way. Let their kids have their braclets and its a sin the braclets have got so much attention because now every preteen and teenager that wears the braclets is going to be looked apon as a slut and even when they wear them just because they like them is going to be looked apon as a slut and that is a sterotype. Im sure that the little girl that was there wearing the braclets because she liked them is already being questioned by her classmates and people from her hometown if she was just wearing the braclets because she liked them or did they have a 'Secret' meaning to her and i think tha
                  I totally agree with paris 38
                  Posted by: barbie1989
                  Posted on: 2003-12-18 22:26:37


                  To first start off my letter , i would like to say i totally agree with paris38. I think she just about said it all , and i honestly could'nt agree more with her. I don't think its right for the schools or administration to take away these bracelets , that in fact some kids like to wear just for fun! I am a 14 years old and i absolutely don't think that most of these kids are wearing them because they want to have sex , i mean , come on! When you have you dr.phil family on , dousen't thay kind of in a away teach you that sex is bad for teenagers and what consequence will come with that choice? I certainly have learned alot ,and i think parents should just trust thier kids and only trust them if they have taught them what sex is and how bad it can somtimes be for you both physically(stds , prengancy , etc.)and emotionally. My mom has taught me all about sex and i wouldnt consider sex until i was married and ready , and most of my friends feel the same way, and i think that its all because of thier parents , explain it to them not just in a short 5 min but actually explain what can happen. I dont mean to sound disrespectful to anybody or thier opinons but i just think i should speek for some teenagers including my friends.

                  P.s that chicks skirt was pretty short!!

                  thanks for reading,
                  *ashley from california

                  Posted by: _morgan_
                  Posted on: 2003-12-20 12:48:30


                  i agree :)
              yes, what is next?
              Posted by: manda1987
              Posted on: 2003-12-16 17:06:10


              you are right pisces2179. i am in highschool and they have banned belly shirts, spagetti strap shirts, and this year have finally put their foot down about boys' boxers showing. and also have banned just last month FUBU(a clothing company). they are saying that FUBU has a secret message now. and if they ban the jelly bracelets then that will just be plan stupid. i do not think that kids are axially having sex. at least noone in my highschool is. i saw one of the bracelets and asked my friend for one and she told me not to let any one snap it becasue then i would have to have sex with them. and i just looked at her and said shut up that is stupid. and it is. and i am going to keep on wearing my bracelets and will even go out and get more and if they do ban them then i will still wear them.

                Posted by: spammmm
                Posted on: 2003-12-16 17:41:15


                I also go to highschool. I used to wear these braclets when I was in middle school. While I was in middle school, these braclets had no meaning. They were something fun to wear and fun to play with. Now that I am in highschool, I see students wear them less and less. They've lost their style where I am. I have certainly never heard of them being "sex bracelets" and trust me, I have plenty of friends who wear them. Where was this "banning system" when children were using coke tabs as a secret message for sex? Or when children where using beads for the same reason? No matter what you ban, we will still have our secret messages for sex. It is not the braclets, it's the children and their perverted minds. When the adults on here were teenagers, they too had their ways of flirting. They will deny it, but I bet that more than half know I'm right.

                  Posted by: leelee99
                  Posted on: 2003-12-18 18:36:05


                  I'm glad to read that I am not the only one who has never heard of these bracelets having any kind of a meaning. I have a 11year old daughter who loves them bracelets and wears them to school all the time. She also has never heard of these bracelets having any kind of a meaning. I guess until I hear some talk about it from the schools or other parents in my community I will continue to let her wear them.
                  yes thank you spammmmm
                  Posted by: rouckout88
                  Posted on: 2003-12-21 23:11:24


                  yes finally thank you antoher high schooler who knows what theyre takling about. you are right they dont mean anything, and yea they did kinda get old but i still wear them because, well they match my clothes and i think they look cute. but whatever.