02/03 My Big Fat Baby
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Posted by: arlyn5776
Posted on: 2003-02-03 09:19:45
It is absolutely the parents responsibility to make sure a child is getting the right nutrition. The child has no say whatsoever. They don't know at that age what is good for them and what is not.
I feel like it is endangering and disgusting.
I have a 6 month old baby at home and I only want what is best for him. That doesn't mean shoving tutti frutti in his face every time he cries.
Posted by: arlyn5776
Posted on: 2003-02-03 09:19:45
It is absolutely the parents responsibility to make sure a child is getting the right nutrition. The child has no say whatsoever. They don't know at that age what is good for them and what is not.
I feel like it is endangering and disgusting.
I have a 6 month old baby at home and I only want what is best for him. That doesn't mean shoving tutti frutti in his face every time he cries.
Posted by: jjwatching
Posted on: 2003-02-03 11:18:33
I have never been so affected by a show, as this one affected me, in fact I have NEVER posted to ANY 'TV show' boards, but, this time I had too...
This woman has NO IDEA what is right for this poor boy.
fat is as fat does
Posted by: msfrizzle1
Posted on: 2003-02-03 15:17:08
I think the key to why the kid is so fat will be seen in tomorrow's show. The preview clip showed that one kid was taken away from the mother and put in foster care, where he lost 50 lbs! These mothers are totally in denial, and YES, it IS CHILD ABUSE. The fact that the mother and grandmother are huge means not only don't they know what is nutritious, but have no clue about portion size. I hope the nutrition program Dr. Phil arranged for them to have gives them a major wake up call! They ALL need to lose at least 100 lbs!
Posted by: msfrizzle1
Posted on: 2003-02-03 15:17:08
I think the key to why the kid is so fat will be seen in tomorrow's show. The preview clip showed that one kid was taken away from the mother and put in foster care, where he lost 50 lbs! These mothers are totally in denial, and YES, it IS CHILD ABUSE. The fact that the mother and grandmother are huge means not only don't they know what is nutritious, but have no clue about portion size. I hope the nutrition program Dr. Phil arranged for them to have gives them a major wake up call! They ALL need to lose at least 100 lbs!
I agree
Posted by: bmabry
Posted on: 2003-02-03 16:56:15
I totally agree with you! And then the Mother had the stupidity to actually say that she did not think it was wrong to give her son a bologna and cheese sandwich every night before he goes to bed! Dr. Phil even repeated it to her, and she just got more defensive!! I also agree that it IS child abuse!!
Posted by: bmabry
Posted on: 2003-02-03 16:56:15
I totally agree with you! And then the Mother had the stupidity to actually say that she did not think it was wrong to give her son a bologna and cheese sandwich every night before he goes to bed! Dr. Phil even repeated it to her, and she just got more defensive!! I also agree that it IS child abuse!!
Ignorance
Posted by: gymmommy
Posted on: 2003-02-03 17:13:20
This is the first time I ever posted anything on this site. I can't believe that anyone could be that ignorant and actually believe that she has no blame in that child being obese. No one becomes 100lbs over weight without eating too much. A four year old is not responsible for his eating habits. There is only one the person, his care giver who obviously hasn't a clue as to how to take care of him.
Posted by: gymmommy
Posted on: 2003-02-03 17:13:20
This is the first time I ever posted anything on this site. I can't believe that anyone could be that ignorant and actually believe that she has no blame in that child being obese. No one becomes 100lbs over weight without eating too much. A four year old is not responsible for his eating habits. There is only one the person, his care giver who obviously hasn't a clue as to how to take care of him.
Stubborn AND rude
Posted by: nevil1
Posted on: 2003-02-03 20:03:20
I couldnt' believe my ears as I watched this episode. I was so outraged that I'm posting here for the first time. But it was not the mother's combatve attitude that made me so angry. She talked about the 15 year old son of the woman next to her being fat. That infuriated me. What right does this woman have to say something SO embarressing about that boy on national TV. If I were at the show I would have stood up and told her off like I was doing in my living room. I feel so sorry for that boy. This woman wouldn't take ANY responsibility for her son and then she makes fun of a child's weight in front of 10 million people. I'm so angry I can hardly type. What a terrible thing to say!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: nevil1
Posted on: 2003-02-03 20:03:20
I couldnt' believe my ears as I watched this episode. I was so outraged that I'm posting here for the first time. But it was not the mother's combatve attitude that made me so angry. She talked about the 15 year old son of the woman next to her being fat. That infuriated me. What right does this woman have to say something SO embarressing about that boy on national TV. If I were at the show I would have stood up and told her off like I was doing in my living room. I feel so sorry for that boy. This woman wouldn't take ANY responsibility for her son and then she makes fun of a child's weight in front of 10 million people. I'm so angry I can hardly type. What a terrible thing to say!!!!!!!!!
Missed that!
Posted by: real_talk
Posted on: 2003-02-03 20:27:29
Nevil
Now I'm really glad I missed that one! I was so upset by this woman's attitude, I couldn't watch the remainder of the show! Now I'm glad I didn't! I really hate ignorance!
Posted by: real_talk
Posted on: 2003-02-03 20:27:29
Nevil
Now I'm really glad I missed that one! I was so upset by this woman's attitude, I couldn't watch the remainder of the show! Now I'm glad I didn't! I really hate ignorance!
Bad Attitude
Posted by: turtle3062
Posted on: 2003-02-03 22:12:50
What I found equally disturbing to this little boy's weight problem, was the mother's terrible attitude. I don't know how Dr. Phil kept from slapping the woman! I have been fat and thin and I know what it takes to be thin, so I know this lady was flat out lying! Her stupidity and selfishness is only hurting her son. It will only be worse when he starts school.
Posted by: turtle3062
Posted on: 2003-02-03 22:12:50
What I found equally disturbing to this little boy's weight problem, was the mother's terrible attitude. I don't know how Dr. Phil kept from slapping the woman! I have been fat and thin and I know what it takes to be thin, so I know this lady was flat out lying! Her stupidity and selfishness is only hurting her son. It will only be worse when he starts school.
Posted by: _rosalia_
Posted on: 2003-02-04 11:54:05
I totally agree. At 4 years old a child has no opinions of his own. Young kids follow their parents lead. If the mother was in that much denial, imagine how the child feels. When he starts school (if he's not in pre school now), he will get picked on and will develope low self esteem. How will his mother help him then if she thinks that he is actually underfed and that giving him ice cream everytime he's upset is not a bad thing!! Dr. Phil should have totally slapped her!!
four year olds do have opinions
Posted by: morentouch
Posted on: 2003-02-06 22:17:30
Four year old children do have opinions of their own- try arguing with a 2 yo. :-)
As far as slapping a person- what is that going to do?
I agree that the child is obese, the parents are responsible, but let's have some common sense here.
Posted by: morentouch
Posted on: 2003-02-06 22:17:30
Four year old children do have opinions of their own- try arguing with a 2 yo. :-)
As far as slapping a person- what is that going to do?
I agree that the child is obese, the parents are responsible, but let's have some common sense here.
ARGUE with a 2 YR. OLD????
Posted by: spirit394
Posted on: 2003-02-07 23:24:27
I have been reading many of the comments on this subject, and when I got to yours, I HAD to comment...far be it from me to tell you, IF you have a two-year old, how to raise your own child, that's none of my business. BUT, if a-n-y-o-n-e thinks they need to argue with a two-year old needs to go see Dr. Phil. I can't believe anyone with even the tiniest bit of common sense would deem it necessary to "argue" with a little child. By the time my son was 2, he certainly, even at that young tender age, knew it wasn't prudent to be defiant to mom. And I will tell you the only time I've ever put a hand on my child was to spank (lightly) his diapered bottom to get his attention. He's now 25 and shows me the respect that he was taught as a child. I don't think I've ever heard anything so silly as to hear an adult say "try arguing with a 2 yr. old"!!!!!! I watched the grandmother of the little girl tell Dr. Phil that all she had to do was use her eyes to get a message to the little one...that's all I had to do with my son, too, and when he grew up and came home from the Marines, he ASKED me if it was ok to tell a joke with the "H" word in it. (hell)...It's all about teaching them respect. Argue????? oh my word...no wonder the world is in the shape it's in, when parents think they should argue with a baby! As John Stossel would say, "Give me a break!"
Posted by: spirit394
Posted on: 2003-02-07 23:24:27
I have been reading many of the comments on this subject, and when I got to yours, I HAD to comment...far be it from me to tell you, IF you have a two-year old, how to raise your own child, that's none of my business. BUT, if a-n-y-o-n-e thinks they need to argue with a two-year old needs to go see Dr. Phil. I can't believe anyone with even the tiniest bit of common sense would deem it necessary to "argue" with a little child. By the time my son was 2, he certainly, even at that young tender age, knew it wasn't prudent to be defiant to mom. And I will tell you the only time I've ever put a hand on my child was to spank (lightly) his diapered bottom to get his attention. He's now 25 and shows me the respect that he was taught as a child. I don't think I've ever heard anything so silly as to hear an adult say "try arguing with a 2 yr. old"!!!!!! I watched the grandmother of the little girl tell Dr. Phil that all she had to do was use her eyes to get a message to the little one...that's all I had to do with my son, too, and when he grew up and came home from the Marines, he ASKED me if it was ok to tell a joke with the "H" word in it. (hell)...It's all about teaching them respect. Argue????? oh my word...no wonder the world is in the shape it's in, when parents think they should argue with a baby! As John Stossel would say, "Give me a break!"
excuses
Posted by: lyndsay195
Posted on: 2003-02-09 01:14:54
I think what angered me more than anything was all the excuses she made. I get sick and tired of people using the excuse that I am a single parent therefore my behaviour is excusable. Too many women use this excuse to not be consistent in dicipline, avoid confrontation, not set limits and let their children have their own way. I am a single mother of 3 sons 19,20,21. Sure I felt guilty, and had to keep my feelings in check so as to not overcompensate for them not having a father in their lives. I disciplined, set limits and had them say they hate me. I survived. They are now all responsilbe adults. Living at home paying rent, helping financially while either putting themselves through college or building their own business. They love me and tell me on a regular basis that they are better off than a lot of their friends that come from a two parent family. They know responsibility. Single mothers need to take responsibility and stop using the single parent line as an excuse. Sure your child will cry, whine and say they hate you at times. Get over it and do what is right in the long run.
Posted by: lyndsay195
Posted on: 2003-02-09 01:14:54
I think what angered me more than anything was all the excuses she made. I get sick and tired of people using the excuse that I am a single parent therefore my behaviour is excusable. Too many women use this excuse to not be consistent in dicipline, avoid confrontation, not set limits and let their children have their own way. I am a single mother of 3 sons 19,20,21. Sure I felt guilty, and had to keep my feelings in check so as to not overcompensate for them not having a father in their lives. I disciplined, set limits and had them say they hate me. I survived. They are now all responsilbe adults. Living at home paying rent, helping financially while either putting themselves through college or building their own business. They love me and tell me on a regular basis that they are better off than a lot of their friends that come from a two parent family. They know responsibility. Single mothers need to take responsibility and stop using the single parent line as an excuse. Sure your child will cry, whine and say they hate you at times. Get over it and do what is right in the long run.
Excuses
Posted by: pmoudakis
Posted on: 2003-02-11 20:08:53
I can't agree more with you, lindsay195! I, too was a single mother - AND a teenage mother. My daughter is now 40 years old, so I did this during a time when we were a pretty rare breed and when it was much more difficult. I did it with no help from anyone - including my family, either financially or emotionally - and managed to not only raise a wonderful young woman, but I put her through private schools and bought us a home - in California. I was a strict disciplinarian but totally consistent. Sure, I felt bad for her that she didn't have a father active in her life, but that didn't give me license to neglect my duty. What these women are doing to these poor children by allowing them to become morbidly obese is nothing short of criminal. Those children SHOULD be removed from their care to give them a chance to see 30. At the rate they are going, these kids will be dead before they reach 30.... The mother that REALLY got me steamed was the first one with the 155 lb. 4-year-old. Her attitude was totally abominable - and her insistance that she did not overfeed the child was nothing short of absurd - being she is also morbidly obese, what in heaven's name does she know about what constitutes "overfeeding"??? I hate to say it, but I think the wonderful help Dr. Phil provided is probably going to be a dismal failure due to this woman's total refusal to take responsibility for her actions. Our children don't get the privilege on choosing their parents, so it's about ti
Posted by: pmoudakis
Posted on: 2003-02-11 20:08:53
I can't agree more with you, lindsay195! I, too was a single mother - AND a teenage mother. My daughter is now 40 years old, so I did this during a time when we were a pretty rare breed and when it was much more difficult. I did it with no help from anyone - including my family, either financially or emotionally - and managed to not only raise a wonderful young woman, but I put her through private schools and bought us a home - in California. I was a strict disciplinarian but totally consistent. Sure, I felt bad for her that she didn't have a father active in her life, but that didn't give me license to neglect my duty. What these women are doing to these poor children by allowing them to become morbidly obese is nothing short of criminal. Those children SHOULD be removed from their care to give them a chance to see 30. At the rate they are going, these kids will be dead before they reach 30.... The mother that REALLY got me steamed was the first one with the 155 lb. 4-year-old. Her attitude was totally abominable - and her insistance that she did not overfeed the child was nothing short of absurd - being she is also morbidly obese, what in heaven's name does she know about what constitutes "overfeeding"??? I hate to say it, but I think the wonderful help Dr. Phil provided is probably going to be a dismal failure due to this woman's total refusal to take responsibility for her actions. Our children don't get the privilege on choosing their parents, so it's about ti
I so agree....
Posted by: greenj
Posted on: 2003-02-19 15:16:54
I was absolutely mortified by this mother and the grandmother's attitudes. Dr. Phil isolated the problem alright...they both want to be right. I have a very bad feeling about this situation. They were not thrilled with the gift of nutritional counseling and I can't see how it will be successful if they aren't onboard. As a single parent myself I also am disgusted at how often lazy people play this card.
Posted by: greenj
Posted on: 2003-02-19 15:16:54
I was absolutely mortified by this mother and the grandmother's attitudes. Dr. Phil isolated the problem alright...they both want to be right. I have a very bad feeling about this situation. They were not thrilled with the gift of nutritional counseling and I can't see how it will be successful if they aren't onboard. As a single parent myself I also am disgusted at how often lazy people play this card.
Excuses
Posted by: nugie6
Posted on: 2003-02-28 10:18:24
You are so right; these "single parents" will use anything to keep from having to do the hard work of having to discipline their children - then they wonder why they turn out to be ill-mannered brats! I commend you for acting as a responsible parent; I wish that there were more women like you!
Posted by: nugie6
Posted on: 2003-02-28 10:18:24
You are so right; these "single parents" will use anything to keep from having to do the hard work of having to discipline their children - then they wonder why they turn out to be ill-mannered brats! I commend you for acting as a responsible parent; I wish that there were more women like you!
I somewhat agree with you
Posted by: loraatkins
Posted on: 2003-05-08 20:05:37
As a parents we are responsible for what our children eat and that is the bottom line. We should make healthy wholesome meals for our children. Do not take your children to fast food resturant everyday for every single meal. Let them eat fresh fruits and vegatables.
Posted by: loraatkins
Posted on: 2003-05-08 20:05:37
As a parents we are responsible for what our children eat and that is the bottom line. We should make healthy wholesome meals for our children. Do not take your children to fast food resturant everyday for every single meal. Let them eat fresh fruits and vegatables.
Amen! Tell like it is...
Posted by: lmdchgo
Posted on: 2004-02-03 00:48:51
In response to "argue with a 2 year old ???", I agree 100%+ to this user's posting. I am the Mother of four teen children and can't believe these parents out there that actually find it acceptable to argue with their children, especially a 2 yr. old. I have encountered several parents that do just that. Wake up parents! That is why we now have so many spoiled rotten children that behave badly and don't know how to act in a proper manner. When you see a child behaving very bad you can bet that it is acceptable in his home too. You are not doing your children, friends, family, or the general public that have to try and keep their mouths shut while they indure your little angel's antics, by allowing it. God forbid you should ever try to tell someone that they need to displine their child! I too am able to keep my children in line with just a look. Parents if you have trouble controlling them when their two wait until there older!!! My children have disliked me too many times to even count because of being told NO but they get over it. I hold my head up high when I'm constantly being told by others including strangers in public, "your kids are so well behaved", "I wish mine were like that". It's sure better then finding out that people don't really want to be around your children because of their bad behavior. Society will pay the price for your inability and unwillingness to disipline your children. P.S. I didn't achieve this by beating them into submission but by being firm
Posted by: lmdchgo
Posted on: 2004-02-03 00:48:51
In response to "argue with a 2 year old ???", I agree 100%+ to this user's posting. I am the Mother of four teen children and can't believe these parents out there that actually find it acceptable to argue with their children, especially a 2 yr. old. I have encountered several parents that do just that. Wake up parents! That is why we now have so many spoiled rotten children that behave badly and don't know how to act in a proper manner. When you see a child behaving very bad you can bet that it is acceptable in his home too. You are not doing your children, friends, family, or the general public that have to try and keep their mouths shut while they indure your little angel's antics, by allowing it. God forbid you should ever try to tell someone that they need to displine their child! I too am able to keep my children in line with just a look. Parents if you have trouble controlling them when their two wait until there older!!! My children have disliked me too many times to even count because of being told NO but they get over it. I hold my head up high when I'm constantly being told by others including strangers in public, "your kids are so well behaved", "I wish mine were like that". It's sure better then finding out that people don't really want to be around your children because of their bad behavior. Society will pay the price for your inability and unwillingness to disipline your children. P.S. I didn't achieve this by beating them into submission but by being firm
opinions of a four year old
Posted by: sleeplessn
Posted on: 2003-02-11 19:06:29
i don't believe that anyone actually means slap literally, what i do sense is the sam frustration i was feeling while watching that program, dr phil was not as direct as most would have wanted. four year olds may have opinions, but are they rational, thought out opinions? of course not! the opinion of a four year old only concerns itself with what feels good now, on the other hand it is the mother's responsibility to influence the opinion of the four year old or totally oppose it for the good of the child. i still believe that laziness is what makes a parent not able to say no.
Posted by: sleeplessn
Posted on: 2003-02-11 19:06:29
i don't believe that anyone actually means slap literally, what i do sense is the sam frustration i was feeling while watching that program, dr phil was not as direct as most would have wanted. four year olds may have opinions, but are they rational, thought out opinions? of course not! the opinion of a four year old only concerns itself with what feels good now, on the other hand it is the mother's responsibility to influence the opinion of the four year old or totally oppose it for the good of the child. i still believe that laziness is what makes a parent not able to say no.
Education
Posted by: djamjham
Posted on: 2003-02-04 18:17:44
I was totally surprised to see a child could become so overweight. With more than one incident being shown this week, makes me wonder, how can we stop this problem. With the country becoming more over weight, I think maybe educating us all might be one means to help the situation for all. Obviously eating habits are formed at a young age, how does one change their own habits and stop the cycle of passing on bad eating habits?
These women need help with these issues and I commmend you for giving it to them Dr. Phil.
We can critisize them again and again, thats not going to help them or the children. These women do love their children, they just need help teaching them good habits they themselves may not know.
I wish them the very best! They are undergoing a terrific challenge. I hope they get the help and support they need.
Posted by: djamjham
Posted on: 2003-02-04 18:17:44
I was totally surprised to see a child could become so overweight. With more than one incident being shown this week, makes me wonder, how can we stop this problem. With the country becoming more over weight, I think maybe educating us all might be one means to help the situation for all. Obviously eating habits are formed at a young age, how does one change their own habits and stop the cycle of passing on bad eating habits?
These women need help with these issues and I commmend you for giving it to them Dr. Phil.
We can critisize them again and again, thats not going to help them or the children. These women do love their children, they just need help teaching them good habits they themselves may not know.
I wish them the very best! They are undergoing a terrific challenge. I hope they get the help and support they need.
education
Posted by: uncleotto
Posted on: 2003-02-07 20:15:36
This problem is largely due to advertisers convincing people it is perfectly ok to feed your family Mac and cheese or hamburger helper for dinner. Chef boy r dee should be used in extreme emergencies only!! It takes time and a small amount of effort to plan and cook REAL dinners for your family. These should include FRESH and nutritious foods. If people cut out All prepared foods from their diets, then obesity would not be an issue.However, advertisers show beautiful, healthy people eating their "junk" foods and uneducated consumers scoff it up. Their should be a class in parenting that notifies people that hot dogs are not a meal!!
Posted by: uncleotto
Posted on: 2003-02-07 20:15:36
This problem is largely due to advertisers convincing people it is perfectly ok to feed your family Mac and cheese or hamburger helper for dinner. Chef boy r dee should be used in extreme emergencies only!! It takes time and a small amount of effort to plan and cook REAL dinners for your family. These should include FRESH and nutritious foods. If people cut out All prepared foods from their diets, then obesity would not be an issue.However, advertisers show beautiful, healthy people eating their "junk" foods and uneducated consumers scoff it up. Their should be a class in parenting that notifies people that hot dogs are not a meal!!
