08/02 Parenting Bloopers

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    Talking to kids about sex...
    Posted by: tullygirl5
    Posted on: 2004-05-10 09:40:07


    A great book for both the parents and the children....Where Did I Come from
    by Peter Mayle.
      Talking about sex won't traumatize your children
      Posted by: amberland
      Posted on: 2004-05-10 15:42:20


      I was too young to remember when my parents taught me about the birds and the bees, but it was sometime before I entered kindergarten (I'm now 25). I don't remember ever being scared about sex or anything like that.

      My parents used the book "Where Did I Come From?" which has illustrations and gives a lot details, but still describes everything is a way that children would understand. It seems to me that telling your children about sex when they are very young would be better than continually putting it off until it's too late and they start to hear about it from other people.

      I also have to disagree with Dr. Phil on something. On one of his previous shows he discouraged telling very young girls about penetration because it might scare them. This book talks about everything, including penetration, and I never remember being scared about it.

      If you do chose to use this book and think that it might have too much information in it for a 4 or 5 year old, keep in mind that the child will absorb what they are interested in learning and forget the rest.
        explaining sex
        Posted by: thenforcer
        Posted on: 2004-08-11 12:53:51


        I believe it is a personal decision each parent makes of when to talk about sex with their children. But, even if it is at an early age, it's still not something they should see driving down the road. And porn flicks sure don't give a positive picture of sex. We left church on a Wednesday night, pulled up to a red light behind a big truck, which had it's back sliding window open. The whole family was faced with a huge screen playing porno in front of us. Satan attacks around every corner!!!! If that guy wanted to watch that trash, it was his business, but we weren't given the decision to make, it was in our face.
    How dumb can you be?
    Posted by: katty2002
    Posted on: 2004-05-10 11:39:36


    How dumb can Jamie and Spencer be hello wake up. How can they not correct their son. And I don't think it's funny to laugh when their son is peeing on the tv. Just cause my daughter throws a tantrum doesn't mean I give in to her. They need some parenting classes or something.

    Helena
      It's Sad
      Posted by: leona21921
      Posted on: 2004-05-10 14:13:05


      It's Sad that these parents feel the need to go to Dr. Phil on National TV to help them potty train their child.....geez!!

      ALL parents have had to train their kids (without DR. Phil or TV) and (thank God) have done so successfully. It's not always easy, but with patience and consistency, it can be done.

      With all the REAL problems involving raising children, this issue is not even worth the air time.
        Discipline Not Punishment
        Posted by: donnybaby
        Posted on: 2004-05-10 16:25:39


        These parent's need to learn the difference between discipline and punishment. Potty training requires no punishment. But they can only discipline their kids to the level of their own discipline. And their own self-discipline is the key. Love & peace, Donny
        negative much?
        Posted by: hermistake
        Posted on: 2004-05-10 16:52:52


        wow! you arent having a good day?

        i am sure that lots of young new parents have potty training troubles and todays show might have helped someone. if it helped one family or person, then the show was very much worth the airtime.

        you didnt find the family to be sweet and silly and uplifting? i mean....we could have sat here today and watched another epidsode of Marty treating his family like hell and depressing us.

        buck up, camper! try a smile once in a while! =o)
          huh?
          Posted by: ladyfur
          Posted on: 2004-05-10 18:12:40


          It was disgusting, not funny or cute or uplifting or any other positive thing I could think to watch those stupid parents let their kid use thier home as a litter box and then watch them laugh about it and say how adorable their little angel was... SICK is what it was to me.

          I was irritated and wanted to throttle the guests today for the stupidity of all the things they were doing every bit as much as I think Marty is an idiot. They wasted Dr. Phils' time where I really think Martys' family NEEDS his time.
            Not funny at all.
            Posted by: verapetta
            Posted on: 2004-05-10 22:51:57


            Thank you.....you took the words right out of my mouth. Yes, it was disgusting to watch those parents laugh about it. I feel Dr. Phil should have been alot harder on them.

            These parents need to wake up, things will only get worse.
              Ditto!!!!!
              Posted by: eilandlady
              Posted on: 2004-08-01 20:50:00


              I agree wholeheartedly! There was nothing "cute" about this child or the situation. Potty training obviously is a part of life as most of us do not go around peeing on the floor or TV for God'sake! These people have no clue. I think that it would be a good idea for not only Dr. Phil but a social worker/counselor to get involved with this family and possible get this situation under control. If they do not get a grip on this child soon, this is just the tip of the iceberg! I would not be happy to see this child in daycare with my child or grandchild. Pathetic!
        WHO IS GOING TO TRAIN THOSE PARENTS?
        Posted by: dkmontoya
        Posted on: 2004-05-10 18:04:31


        That child is in for some real danger, not just a flash of humilation on television. If those parents are not going to be willing to BE parents, then Social Services in the county where they live should be notified. 97 percent of a parent's life is spent guiding, teaching, directing, disciplining, correcting, instructing, and negotiating boundaries. If these people are having a problem with potty training, what on Earth will they do when the child starts hitting people, or stealing, or being cruel to animals? This isn't just a silly topic, folks. These parents are guilty of child neglect --- plain and simple. This child is not a doll that can be put into a toy box when they're tired of playing with it. I pray that the child is removed from their home while he's young enough to learn from REAL PARENTS.

        Katherine Montoya
        North Carolina
        Mother, Grandmother, Aunt, and "Foster" Mom for Many!
          Lighten up!
          Posted by: coopjake
          Posted on: 2004-05-11 09:59:13


          Now do you really beleive that this child should be taken from his home by CFS for inadequated potty training?

          I agree that the parents need to educate themselves on discipline and the consequences of failing to do so, while this child is still young. This seems to be the reason they came on the show.

          The important question to ask is since the show was taped some time ago is Kycsar now potty trained and has he stopped taking his clothes off and peeing on the floor? Are Jamie and Spencer putting theory into practice and being consistent with their discipline?

          It's one thing to just insult these parents and it's another to give them some guidance to do a better job of parenting. Again it's better to be part of the solution rather than just pointing out the problem.
          who is going to train those parents
          Posted by: mamadeann
          Posted on: 2004-05-12 14:30:22


          are you seriously suggesting CPS should be called in because a 2 yr old takes off his clothes and wets on the floor? They were loving parents.. this is their first child and they are LEARNING just like he is..
          my youngest ran around naked from about 18 months to about .. 5 1/2?? he had a few accidents.. but cloth diapers helped that out.. we couldn't keep his clothes on.. we didn't laugh, we didn't scream or have fits.. we just let him grow out of it.. perfectly normal..
          .. CPS?? for two loving parents that can't decide what to do about potty training.. and a 2 yr old wetting on the floor being compared to the torture of animals???
          a child getting naked and wetting on the floor, not a great idea.. but not a D and N case either.. plus.. the other side of the coin is.. kids taking off their clothes is perfectly natural.. normal and a-ok in a lot of pyschology expert's opinions..
          and mine too.. after I too had a kid that you couldn't keep clothes on without breaking his spirit and his "self" ..
          safety pins, over alls, cloth diapers, duct tape.. tried it all.. than realized.. you know.. this kid is set and deteremined to run "free" and that was that.. so .. out came the 45 sunscreen.. and out he went into his yard.. (yes we dressed him for the store and other outings. didn't always mean he stayed that way)
          Get out of foster care
          Posted by: momof7boyz
          Posted on: 2004-05-12 15:28:30


          With the horrible abuse of so many of our children today the last thing government agencies need to deal with is complaints from someone like you that think these are horrible parents because their 2 yr old isn't potty trained,or because he wets on the floor. Should all the abused children in our world have such awfull parents like Kycers. with your negative attitude the very last thing that is needed is the poor children to be put into your negative surroundings.

          Posted by: resegibbs
          Posted on: 2004-05-12 18:08:59


          i don't think it is a situation for child protection services. Having to deal with complaints like yours is why there are so many problems in dealing with real problems. You waste the time and resorces of the system.
          How Horrifying!
          Posted by: nutymomof5
          Posted on: 2004-05-13 11:17:41


          I am more horrified at this posting than some of the situations on extreme parenting. I feel for the children that are in your care. I hope the appropiate foster care agency will re-evaluate your foster care license! What a horrible concept to pull a child from a loving mother and father, the only this little child has ever known, for potty training difficulties. I've known many such families that have wonderful healthy children. I have 5 kids and two of them were streakers. I bought Onesies to help but some children have a real strong streak (no pun intended) to be naked at a certain age. One is still in that phase and the other has completely out grown it and she is 3. I deeply love my children and they deeply love me. I am there rock and saftey from the world. I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEONE COMING TO TRY TO TAKE MY CHILDREN FROM OUR HOME BECAUSE THEY STRIPPED AND HAD ACCIDENTS ON THE FLOOR OCCASIONALY!!!!! IT WOULD BE HORRIFYING AND TRAUMATIC AND WOULD DO DAMAGE BEYOND ANYTHING I WANT TO EVEN THINK ABOUT TO MY CHILDREN!!!!! Dr. Phil, you need to talk to this woman!!!! And check and make sure the children in her house are okay!
          Define Parenting
          Posted by: jody208
          Posted on: 2004-08-02 21:16:50


          That's harsh. I think the kids are better off with these lazy and/or selfish parents than they would be in the system. (though I applaud the many fine foster parents out there) I'd rather see someone step in and point out that these parents aren't giving their children the skills needed to survive and be happy in the outside world. Kids aren't for the amusement of the parents, get a pet mouse if you need to be amused! Parenting is teaching a child manners, gratitude, how to amuse themselves with simple things, timing, what is appropriate as well as what is not, and that starts at day one. Those are the things that will make a child confident in school, to choose friends of good character, to be generous themselves. That's parenting. Truth is; a small child will learn and grow while playing with Mom and a cardboard box. What kind of a life will those kids have in the future if their parents don't GROW UP! That little girl Bailey will get a lot more out of feeling capable, helpful, and appreciative because of her mom's good parenting. She already appreciates her toys more and has experienced pride IN HER OWN BEHAVIOR, not her possessions. Her mom put her own ego and needs aside and is doing a great service to that little girl.
          potty training
          Posted by: katierita
          Posted on: 2004-08-12 16:14:43


          i think some of the comments are harsh it can be hard to potty train a child i have a 3 yr old who is potty trained from 2 yrs all epcept for poo poo she refuses to use anythink other than a nappy so im now in prosess of retraining her as she did do poos in potty twice but think it hurt her ,so now am going to take her in toilet with nappy and be concistent hopefully this will work . im not getting upset about it im sure she will be out of nappies soon and where be on to somethink else as she is realy well behaved 3 yr old
        It's Sad
        Posted by: scoberry
        Posted on: 2004-05-10 19:15:43


        It must be nice to have it easy when it came to potty training for you. I have a 3 1/2 old son, and I have been trying to potty train him for 6 months. I am having absolutely no luck, mostly because he has no desire to potty train. He goes through 8 to 10 pairs of underwear a day by peeing, and pooping on the floor. We have tried everything, and talked to everyone we know to get suggestions. So next time you decide to pass judgement on others who are having a difficult time with something, remember that not all things are easy for everyone.
          Can I help?
          Posted by: djgmilan
          Posted on: 2004-05-10 21:12:55


          I have two sons. With my first, I was absolutely convinced that he'd be wearing diapers in college. No kidding. What worked for us is what I'd like to share with you as I truly hope it helps. When I put on his underwear, I said, "now it's important to keep Buzz Lightyear dry...(this was the cartoon character at the time on his undies) and if you can do this by making potty and poo poo in the toilet, then you get a sticker, and everytime you earn three stickers, then mom will give you (fill in the blank of what your son would like as a reward.) I taped a blank sheet of typing paper where he could see it in the bathroom. For every successful trip to the bathroom, he'd get the honor of putting a sticker of his choice on the paper. He was so excited to slowly but surely see the stickers accumulate. Also, if I put two M&M's on the bathroom counter that he could reach and eat every time he made poo poo in the bathroom, then that was a super treat for him as well. I tried this after six months of unsuccessful potty training, and it worked immediately. With our second son, I instilled it right in the beginning and it took two weeks. I hope this works. Good luck to you. Hang in there.