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Posted by: dbnodurf
Posted on: 2003-10-21 09:45:20
On the show today, Dr. Phil said that "there is a saying that money is the root of all evil." Yes, this is a common saying, but this is probably the most misquoted verse ever! It is actually written "the LOVE of money is the root of all evil."
Money itself is merely a medium of exchange; one that is more necessary in our society today than in past eras when we grew and canned most of our own food, etc. The guests on the show today (Oct. 21, 2003) are in trouble because of the LOVE of money.
Please note that I am not saying this so much for editorial value, but in consideration of the extra dimension this opens to the discussion.
Posted by: dbnodurf
Posted on: 2003-10-21 09:45:20
On the show today, Dr. Phil said that "there is a saying that money is the root of all evil." Yes, this is a common saying, but this is probably the most misquoted verse ever! It is actually written "the LOVE of money is the root of all evil."
Money itself is merely a medium of exchange; one that is more necessary in our society today than in past eras when we grew and canned most of our own food, etc. The guests on the show today (Oct. 21, 2003) are in trouble because of the LOVE of money.
Please note that I am not saying this so much for editorial value, but in consideration of the extra dimension this opens to the discussion.
Posted by: tath22
Posted on: 2003-10-21 09:51:08
I agree,
It is the LOVE of money is the root to all evil.
These couples are fools!
childish actions
Posted by: wpbpruitt
Posted on: 2004-03-10 16:27:44
i agree with what tath22 said all the couples dont think whats best for there families they only think of what they want like the first young lady just because her father spoiled her she thinks her husband should do the same and like her i think that no amount of money he could make would be enough and the gentleman in the second couple i think instead of buying all those things for his children he's still a child himself and are using them for an excuse to buy the things he wants instead of paying his bills and taking care of his family
Posted by: wpbpruitt
Posted on: 2004-03-10 16:27:44
i agree with what tath22 said all the couples dont think whats best for there families they only think of what they want like the first young lady just because her father spoiled her she thinks her husband should do the same and like her i think that no amount of money he could make would be enough and the gentleman in the second couple i think instead of buying all those things for his children he's still a child himself and are using them for an excuse to buy the things he wants instead of paying his bills and taking care of his family
insatiable souls
Posted by: julesbird1
Posted on: 2004-03-10 17:55:42
I don't think these couples are fools as one person said. I think Jessica & Matthew are insatiable. They are trying to fill a hole with "stuff". It is a bottomless pit. They need to fix their souls inside. They are longing for something else. It's sad that they also base their self-worth on the "things" they have. What's with Matthew? He said something like it's the guy who wins with the most toys? Meanwhile, he then said he is embarrased that people think he is "the guy who can't pay his bills". So what's the big brag about owning DVD's & video games when you don't even have electricity to run them on? These people need some counseling to get at the root of their self esteem & self worth problems.
The guy on the corner: I don't think he is all that bad. I think he was beaten down. I think he thought he would get a job right away & now is desperate enough to even humilate himself/family to get a job. At least they were willing to give up everything instead of running out & buying STUFF!!! Bravo to her sister & her bro-in-law. Many people would not have the love & support that they have given them. I hope in better future financial times they will reward them in some small way.
Posted by: julesbird1
Posted on: 2004-03-10 17:55:42
I don't think these couples are fools as one person said. I think Jessica & Matthew are insatiable. They are trying to fill a hole with "stuff". It is a bottomless pit. They need to fix their souls inside. They are longing for something else. It's sad that they also base their self-worth on the "things" they have. What's with Matthew? He said something like it's the guy who wins with the most toys? Meanwhile, he then said he is embarrased that people think he is "the guy who can't pay his bills". So what's the big brag about owning DVD's & video games when you don't even have electricity to run them on? These people need some counseling to get at the root of their self esteem & self worth problems.
The guy on the corner: I don't think he is all that bad. I think he was beaten down. I think he thought he would get a job right away & now is desperate enough to even humilate himself/family to get a job. At least they were willing to give up everything instead of running out & buying STUFF!!! Bravo to her sister & her bro-in-law. Many people would not have the love & support that they have given them. I hope in better future financial times they will reward them in some small way.
Mrs Dude On The Corner
Posted by: mrsdotc
Posted on: 2004-03-11 01:01:05
julesbird1
You are on the money when you said the guy on the corner was just "beaten down"! How much can a guy take? I really think that people don't understand or talk about how hard it is on men or the bread winner of a family when they aren't able to provide. Jeff has two MBA's and is 35 with 10 years of experience, and people don't understand why he can't find a job, well he hadn't and he needed support to help him keep his head up high and he sure wasn't getting much of it.
"Bravo to the sister & brother in law" is right! They were the support that Jeff needed and is that what family is about or what.... Ya, it was hard but it was for four months and what is that when you look at your entire life? I know that all four of us have a stronger relationship then we ever had and if you were to ask any of us if we were to do it over would we, the answer is Yes. And what did it teach all of our six kids...how to help someone when times are tough (let's hope). The hardest day of my life was when my daughter came to me in tears because she didn't understand why everything in her room had a price tag on it, why it had to be sold. But you know what, as hard as it is we have to realize that we are being consumed with the desires of "stuff". With this adversity, I know we have learned what is important and it's not "stuff"!
Posted by: mrsdotc
Posted on: 2004-03-11 01:01:05
julesbird1
You are on the money when you said the guy on the corner was just "beaten down"! How much can a guy take? I really think that people don't understand or talk about how hard it is on men or the bread winner of a family when they aren't able to provide. Jeff has two MBA's and is 35 with 10 years of experience, and people don't understand why he can't find a job, well he hadn't and he needed support to help him keep his head up high and he sure wasn't getting much of it.
"Bravo to the sister & brother in law" is right! They were the support that Jeff needed and is that what family is about or what.... Ya, it was hard but it was for four months and what is that when you look at your entire life? I know that all four of us have a stronger relationship then we ever had and if you were to ask any of us if we were to do it over would we, the answer is Yes. And what did it teach all of our six kids...how to help someone when times are tough (let's hope). The hardest day of my life was when my daughter came to me in tears because she didn't understand why everything in her room had a price tag on it, why it had to be sold. But you know what, as hard as it is we have to realize that we are being consumed with the desires of "stuff". With this adversity, I know we have learned what is important and it's not "stuff"!
Going for Broke
Posted by: joane0
Posted on: 2004-03-11 10:08:01
These spenders are too much. I had to change the channel after the first half hour. That the first woman could not see what she was doing is beyond belief. These people deprive their families because of their selfishness. How does that woman justify spending a week's pay on "stuff". How Dr. Phil can keep his sanity is a miracle.
Posted by: joane0
Posted on: 2004-03-11 10:08:01
These spenders are too much. I had to change the channel after the first half hour. That the first woman could not see what she was doing is beyond belief. These people deprive their families because of their selfishness. How does that woman justify spending a week's pay on "stuff". How Dr. Phil can keep his sanity is a miracle.
So True
Posted by: linlaughed
Posted on: 2003-10-21 18:31:34
I agree w/ you but feel I must add that it is important for these people, especially Jessica to figure out WHY she is sooo immature and shallow. When one's entire sense of well being and self image is wrapped up in designer jeans something is very wrong inside. The pity is, she is passing her skewed sense of what is important and low self esteem along to her son.
She could win the lotto and things wont be OK.
You gotta fix the inside first then the outside will follow.
Posted by: linlaughed
Posted on: 2003-10-21 18:31:34
I agree w/ you but feel I must add that it is important for these people, especially Jessica to figure out WHY she is sooo immature and shallow. When one's entire sense of well being and self image is wrapped up in designer jeans something is very wrong inside. The pity is, she is passing her skewed sense of what is important and low self esteem along to her son.
She could win the lotto and things wont be OK.
You gotta fix the inside first then the outside will follow.
i agree...
Posted by: ymimad
Posted on: 2003-10-22 20:48:21
Jessica bothered me the most, i really hope she changes. what bothered me was the lack of love for her husband and son. to be buying stuff for herself when the family was in trouble was so disrespectful. she was in effect stealing from her husband and son things they needed. I feel sorry for her to think that buying things will make her happy and satisfied. it wont and she will find that out if she loses her husband who she treats so disrespectfully.
Posted by: ymimad
Posted on: 2003-10-22 20:48:21
Jessica bothered me the most, i really hope she changes. what bothered me was the lack of love for her husband and son. to be buying stuff for herself when the family was in trouble was so disrespectful. she was in effect stealing from her husband and son things they needed. I feel sorry for her to think that buying things will make her happy and satisfied. it wont and she will find that out if she loses her husband who she treats so disrespectfully.
Posted by: kimmyk73
Posted on: 2004-03-10 16:25:36
Dr. Phill the Bible in 1 Timothy chapter 6 verse 10 states " For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil,for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
Posted by: kimmyk73
Posted on: 2004-03-10 16:43:46
Dr. Phill the Bible in 1 Timothy chapter 6 verse 10 states " For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil,for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. I would like to say how sick that it makes me to see someone so spoiled that has money to pay bills and food but wants the best of the best. My Husband and I just opened our own buisness and we average around 1,500.00 a month (some months are lower then that)we have never been able to buy a home so we rent the goverment pays for our food and health care and we are lucky to buy cothes that the kids need for school when they go on clearance or at a consignment shop yard sale or goodwill. I have seen it on Ophrah and Dr. Phill with all of these spoiled people who really have more than they really know. Even the celeberties act this way look at the cast of Friends they make a million an episode and that wasn't good enough how much can a person spend anyways. I would love for some of these people to live one month in my shoes then they would know what being broke really is, they wouldn't last one day there is no shopping in my world, there are no credit cards, we pay for rent, electric, phone, water, and yes cable ( one item that is not needed ) there is also a loan that we are paying on that he mom had to borrow just to get the business started so there is nothing left for vacation or desinger clothing. You people have it better than you know GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
right on
Posted by: 919191
Posted on: 2003-10-31 09:53:02
I couldn't agree more! I have friends who are far more interested in what they have than what they are! It's very frustrating when people you grew up with and thought you knew become victims of their own greed. On the other hand, my own sister was recently divorced from a husband who constantly bought "things" for himself, her and other people ... trying to be loved and she was too weak to stop it. He recently filed for bankruptcy and their home was lost. She is living with my mother at the age of 53 and has nothing to show for years of work and toil. No one did this out of viciousness or even greed, but I'm afraid the means doesn't really matter when the end is the same.
Posted by: 919191
Posted on: 2003-10-31 09:53:02
I couldn't agree more! I have friends who are far more interested in what they have than what they are! It's very frustrating when people you grew up with and thought you knew become victims of their own greed. On the other hand, my own sister was recently divorced from a husband who constantly bought "things" for himself, her and other people ... trying to be loved and she was too weak to stop it. He recently filed for bankruptcy and their home was lost. She is living with my mother at the age of 53 and has nothing to show for years of work and toil. No one did this out of viciousness or even greed, but I'm afraid the means doesn't really matter when the end is the same.
be a mechanic's wife, Jessica!
Posted by: quilt1962
Posted on: 2004-03-10 13:13:59
When you marry a blue collar worker, you cannot expect to live on a doctor's salary! I'm not saying anything against the trades, but the fact is they don't pull down $250K a year. Jessica needs to get real with herself about how much money is coming in. It's totally wrong of her to say her DH doesn't make enough money. How is he supposed to love somebody who talks like that about him? There he is working his butt off at what he is trained to do, and it's not good enough for her.
If she wants to spend like a doctor's wages, then maybe she needs to get an education that would allow her to bring in that kind of money. It's like she feels entitled to luxuries. She's got real problems.
Posted by: quilt1962
Posted on: 2004-03-10 13:13:59
When you marry a blue collar worker, you cannot expect to live on a doctor's salary! I'm not saying anything against the trades, but the fact is they don't pull down $250K a year. Jessica needs to get real with herself about how much money is coming in. It's totally wrong of her to say her DH doesn't make enough money. How is he supposed to love somebody who talks like that about him? There he is working his butt off at what he is trained to do, and it's not good enough for her.
If she wants to spend like a doctor's wages, then maybe she needs to get an education that would allow her to bring in that kind of money. It's like she feels entitled to luxuries. She's got real problems.
Posted by: imtern
Posted on: 2004-03-10 17:37:30
Actually, I am a doctor and it's a myth that doctors make a lot of money. It's true that there a few doctors who make an incredible amount of money, but most do not and when you factor in all the educational debt it means you have to live very carefully. However, some doctors fall into the same trap as this family and they spend WAY over their means because they feel that "hey, I'm a doctor, I should have a Mercedes and a big home." Don't get me wrong, I am in no way complaining about my salary. Many people would kill to make what I make and I thank God every day for the priviledge of being able to make a good living helping people. But I am not rich by any means. I shop for deals at the grocery store and drive an older car and do my own cleaning and yardwork.
Also, some blue collar workers can make a great living. Many mechanics do very well, as do some plumbers and electricians. Many blue collar workers have skills that are very valuable.
That being said, I agree with quilt962, everyone should be realistic about what they make and how they can live. Whether you are a mechanic, doctor or janitor, you have to spend within your means. Jessica even admitted that no amount would be enough. That is a red flag right there that she is out of control. She is saying that she will never be happy no matter what she can buy. She needs to STOP SHOPPING. That means NOT going into stores to browse. Grocery store only and with a list that she sticks to. If she can't do it, she should send her husband for necessities and stay out of stores until she is under control. Get a hobby! She is sucking the life out of that family for a stupid pair of designer jeans.
to imtern
Posted by: quilt1962
Posted on: 2004-03-11 13:35:34
I think the mechanics who make the better money are the ones who own their own business. I think Jessica's husband is just an employee and is subject to just making an hourly wage, and his hours can be cut back during seasonal lows. She admits that the seasonality of his work is a problem, and their spending plan needed to reflect that by preparing a savings for the low times, or finding a better job. In any case, he does sound like he got a promotion and that's great.
I think that doctors have an earning spectrum based on the type of practice they are in and how much time they put in. However I think almost any doctor is making more money than a mechanic who works for somebody else's shop.
Posted by: quilt1962
Posted on: 2004-03-11 13:35:34
I think the mechanics who make the better money are the ones who own their own business. I think Jessica's husband is just an employee and is subject to just making an hourly wage, and his hours can be cut back during seasonal lows. She admits that the seasonality of his work is a problem, and their spending plan needed to reflect that by preparing a savings for the low times, or finding a better job. In any case, he does sound like he got a promotion and that's great.
I think that doctors have an earning spectrum based on the type of practice they are in and how much time they put in. However I think almost any doctor is making more money than a mechanic who works for somebody else's shop.
Good message
Posted by: cougle
Posted on: 2004-04-01 19:04:10
Good message imterm .I also just did a similar messge about mechanics and other
blue collar workers havign valuable skills that some people dismiss or look down upon.
I have a guy friend who is a mechanic and I think eventually he will do quite well ,he
is struggliegn right now finacially but I am sure once he gets established he will do well as he also has other skills such as carpentary.
Posted by: cougle
Posted on: 2004-04-01 19:04:10
Good message imterm .I also just did a similar messge about mechanics and other
blue collar workers havign valuable skills that some people dismiss or look down upon.
I have a guy friend who is a mechanic and I think eventually he will do quite well ,he
is struggliegn right now finacially but I am sure once he gets established he will do well as he also has other skills such as carpentary.
She should watch her spending
Posted by: cougle
Posted on: 2004-04-01 19:00:45
Jessica should watch her spending and try to
make her own money . She should be proud of her husband and there is nothing wrong with being a mechanic as some of them make good
money espeacially when they are established
or own there own business . Besides having
a mechanic for husband isn't a bad thing as
they can fix your car and there's and save a lot of money as you just have to pay for parts. I know a guy who is a mechanic and it
has saved him a lot on money as he just pays for parts as well as the fact that many mechanics also have other skills such as
carpentary as well as soem of them are in
good physical shape.
Posted by: cougle
Posted on: 2004-04-01 19:00:45
Jessica should watch her spending and try to
make her own money . She should be proud of her husband and there is nothing wrong with being a mechanic as some of them make good
money espeacially when they are established
or own there own business . Besides having
a mechanic for husband isn't a bad thing as
they can fix your car and there's and save a lot of money as you just have to pay for parts. I know a guy who is a mechanic and it
has saved him a lot on money as he just pays for parts as well as the fact that many mechanics also have other skills such as
carpentary as well as soem of them are in
good physical shape.
whats with this chick?
Posted by: daffy61
Posted on: 2004-03-10 10:30:53
This girls parents did a real number on her, she seems to equate love with material items. if she only knew how quickly it could be all gone. in the blink of an eye. life is to short. your purse and jeans wont keep the rain off your head or your belly from grumbling from lack of nutrition. He needs to dump this woman and find someone who appriciates all his hard work.
Posted by: daffy61
Posted on: 2004-03-10 10:30:53
This girls parents did a real number on her, she seems to equate love with material items. if she only knew how quickly it could be all gone. in the blink of an eye. life is to short. your purse and jeans wont keep the rain off your head or your belly from grumbling from lack of nutrition. He needs to dump this woman and find someone who appriciates all his hard work.
appalled
Posted by: michelleyw
Posted on: 2004-03-10 13:57:31
I know the show today was first aired in October but today was my first time seeing it. I was just appalled by Jessica! I couldn't believe what I was hearing. She should be so grateful that she has a hard-working caring husband that wants to take care of his family. I was married to a drug addict and he didn't want to work and take care of me and my son. I am now with someone who works hard and puts us first and we do not make a lot of money but we do the right thing and always pay our bills first. Besides that makes us rich because we do it together and we have a happy fulfilling life because of our morals and values I feel very sorry for her because her designer jeans and designer purses are not going to make her happy.She needs to give her husband a big kiss and go shop at Wal-mart.
Posted by: michelleyw
Posted on: 2004-03-10 13:57:31
I know the show today was first aired in October but today was my first time seeing it. I was just appalled by Jessica! I couldn't believe what I was hearing. She should be so grateful that she has a hard-working caring husband that wants to take care of his family. I was married to a drug addict and he didn't want to work and take care of me and my son. I am now with someone who works hard and puts us first and we do not make a lot of money but we do the right thing and always pay our bills first. Besides that makes us rich because we do it together and we have a happy fulfilling life because of our morals and values I feel very sorry for her because her designer jeans and designer purses are not going to make her happy.She needs to give her husband a big kiss and go shop at Wal-mart.
Jessica - One sick puppy
Posted by: britelite7
Posted on: 2004-03-10 16:38:56
Jessica is one spoiled brat...a really "sick" puppy. Having filed for bankruptcy, she is already a thief and should be paying back her past debts to work herself out of that reality. Bankruptcy is for EMERGENCY situations (not "Designer" materialism!) and for whatever reason, those people should consider it a "reprieve"...not a moral pardon (unless each debt is truly forgiven by the person from whom they have taken that money)and spend the rest of their lives making some kind of sincere restitution to the injured parties. God help her poor hostage husband...she is demeaning his value and worth every day by her selfish, self-centered demands....and SHE is the pitiful one. If she doesn't change her ways, she needs to be left in the dirt until she can come to grips with reality. Her doting parents obviously didn't help her to "grow up" in a responsible manner, and it's hard to belive they couldn't recognize her selfish materialistic ways in time to reroute them. She would be wise to come to the end of her selfish self and to come to the Lord and be changed from the inside out...and find that this "plastic" world she lives in doesn't revolve around her. Oh, how people like her just rattle my brain with their whining ways! GROW UP, GROW UP, GROW UP!!!!!
Posted by: britelite7
Posted on: 2004-03-10 16:38:56
Jessica is one spoiled brat...a really "sick" puppy. Having filed for bankruptcy, she is already a thief and should be paying back her past debts to work herself out of that reality. Bankruptcy is for EMERGENCY situations (not "Designer" materialism!) and for whatever reason, those people should consider it a "reprieve"...not a moral pardon (unless each debt is truly forgiven by the person from whom they have taken that money)and spend the rest of their lives making some kind of sincere restitution to the injured parties. God help her poor hostage husband...she is demeaning his value and worth every day by her selfish, self-centered demands....and SHE is the pitiful one. If she doesn't change her ways, she needs to be left in the dirt until she can come to grips with reality. Her doting parents obviously didn't help her to "grow up" in a responsible manner, and it's hard to belive they couldn't recognize her selfish materialistic ways in time to reroute them. She would be wise to come to the end of her selfish self and to come to the Lord and be changed from the inside out...and find that this "plastic" world she lives in doesn't revolve around her. Oh, how people like her just rattle my brain with their whining ways! GROW UP, GROW UP, GROW UP!!!!!
You are Right On
Posted by: ltlcin
Posted on: 2004-03-10 21:27:48
It is not money, itself that is the root of all evil, but the Love of Money and the guests on todays show, (not all of them) but the ones that are in Love with the Money are the ones who are in trouble, Money is energy and a needed commodity but its mostly peoples wants, not needs, that are getting them in trouble.
Posted by: ltlcin
Posted on: 2004-03-10 21:27:48
It is not money, itself that is the root of all evil, but the Love of Money and the guests on todays show, (not all of them) but the ones that are in Love with the Money are the ones who are in trouble, Money is energy and a needed commodity but its mostly peoples wants, not needs, that are getting them in trouble.
