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Posted by: loveboston
Posted on: 2004-10-12 16:49:19
Tuesday October 12, 2004
Dr. Phil told the "spanking father" that "...she'll go with the first man who says what she needs to hear" I'm 60 yrs. old and I've done that twice...I broke down and cried when I realized what Dr. Phil said was true of me and my life.
The good news is my three children have not needed to follow in my shoes, because they all KNOW they're special. That's how I raised them -special- they all married older and wiser...Thanks DAD for teaching me the wrong way.
Posted by: loveboston
Posted on: 2004-10-12 16:49:19
Tuesday October 12, 2004
Dr. Phil told the "spanking father" that "...she'll go with the first man who says what she needs to hear" I'm 60 yrs. old and I've done that twice...I broke down and cried when I realized what Dr. Phil said was true of me and my life.
The good news is my three children have not needed to follow in my shoes, because they all KNOW they're special. That's how I raised them -special- they all married older and wiser...Thanks DAD for teaching me the wrong way.
Confused about Background
Posted by: purdue83
Posted on: 2004-10-13 21:53:49
I am confused - I thought that Dr. Phil's dad was a doctor. What is the truth?
Posted by: purdue83
Posted on: 2004-10-13 21:53:49
I am confused - I thought that Dr. Phil's dad was a doctor. What is the truth?
Posted by: pb6936578
Posted on: 2004-10-14 08:00:14
If you click on
Phil's Background
Posted by: poetmom
Posted on: 2004-10-14 08:25:09
His father earned his degree in psychology at the age of 40....not sure what he did before that.
Posted by: poetmom
Posted on: 2004-10-14 08:25:09
His father earned his degree in psychology at the age of 40....not sure what he did before that.
i've said it before and i'll say it again...
Posted by: jeditom
Posted on: 2004-10-14 08:18:36
"Playing favorites is not okay." Letting those boys beat up Katie just cannot go on. Period!
Posted by: jeditom
Posted on: 2004-10-14 08:18:36
"Playing favorites is not okay." Letting those boys beat up Katie just cannot go on. Period!
SIBLING ABUSE AND SIBLING RIVALRY
Posted by: anon_slc
Posted on: 2004-10-16 11:14:07
IMO too many parents write-off bullying and sibling abuse as "boys will be boys" or "girls will be girls". Thus readily accepting viciousness and cruelty to others as the norm. A begining read on the subject is:
What Parents Need to Know About Sibling Abuse: Breaking the Cycle of Violence by Vernon Wiehe
Wiehe is a highly recognized and respected author who has written extensively over the years on the subject of sibling abuse, family violene and elderly abuse.
Hope it helps!
Posted by: anon_slc
Posted on: 2004-10-16 11:14:07
IMO too many parents write-off bullying and sibling abuse as "boys will be boys" or "girls will be girls". Thus readily accepting viciousness and cruelty to others as the norm. A begining read on the subject is:
What Parents Need to Know About Sibling Abuse: Breaking the Cycle of Violence by Vernon Wiehe
Wiehe is a highly recognized and respected author who has written extensively over the years on the subject of sibling abuse, family violene and elderly abuse.
Hope it helps!
Bully vs Abuse
Posted by: stellavamp
Posted on: 2004-10-20 15:51:40
I hope people who need to, read this book. I was, no, still am the victim of a violent brother. I am now 49 and he is now 51. The legacy that this has left us both with is so devastating. I went through the usual patterns growing up...going with the first person who paid attention to me, going out with abusive men because I felt that was all I deserved, no self esteem...I finally got help through therapy and am getting my life back together.
The devastation to my brother is just as bad. He learned to be a violent person and tried to settle everything with violence. As a youth my father spent megabucks on lawyers to get him out of trouble. As an adult, it devastated his career because of that fact that his explosive temper had been condoned by my parents and therefore has become such a part of him. In addition, he bullied me because he was jealous of me. He was the first born and had two years of my parents undivided attention. When I came along he acted out his jealousy through violence. As we grew up, every time I accomplished something or exhibited some skill his anger was swift and violent. I started first grade with a broken nose and two black eyes from being smashed in the face with a baseball bat. When I was 12 I was hit in the head so hard the doctor cautioned my mother to keep an eye on the wound in case my brains started leaking out...When he got older the violence turned to sexual abuse.
Instead of teaching my brother that he had skills and values of his own, they reacted by trying to stifle me. Don't make good grades in school, don't be good at things, don't try something new because you might succeed and make your brother look bad. Consequently he did not develop a healthy sense of self esteem because he was fed the message that he was only good if I was not...Now at 51 he is a bitter, angry old man. I say old man because he suffers so many stress related diseases that he looks like he is 65 instead of 51. He is still so violent I cannot be around him.
This has destroyed our family. My father on his deathbed cried because he though he was going to hell for not protecting me all my life. He died a very sad and brokenhearted man. People need to realize what they are doing to themselves and their families and change the pattern before it is too late for everyone in the family.
Posted by: stellavamp
Posted on: 2004-10-20 15:51:40
I hope people who need to, read this book. I was, no, still am the victim of a violent brother. I am now 49 and he is now 51. The legacy that this has left us both with is so devastating. I went through the usual patterns growing up...going with the first person who paid attention to me, going out with abusive men because I felt that was all I deserved, no self esteem...I finally got help through therapy and am getting my life back together.
The devastation to my brother is just as bad. He learned to be a violent person and tried to settle everything with violence. As a youth my father spent megabucks on lawyers to get him out of trouble. As an adult, it devastated his career because of that fact that his explosive temper had been condoned by my parents and therefore has become such a part of him. In addition, he bullied me because he was jealous of me. He was the first born and had two years of my parents undivided attention. When I came along he acted out his jealousy through violence. As we grew up, every time I accomplished something or exhibited some skill his anger was swift and violent. I started first grade with a broken nose and two black eyes from being smashed in the face with a baseball bat. When I was 12 I was hit in the head so hard the doctor cautioned my mother to keep an eye on the wound in case my brains started leaking out...When he got older the violence turned to sexual abuse.
Instead of teaching my brother that he had skills and values of his own, they reacted by trying to stifle me. Don't make good grades in school, don't be good at things, don't try something new because you might succeed and make your brother look bad. Consequently he did not develop a healthy sense of self esteem because he was fed the message that he was only good if I was not...Now at 51 he is a bitter, angry old man. I say old man because he suffers so many stress related diseases that he looks like he is 65 instead of 51. He is still so violent I cannot be around him.
This has destroyed our family. My father on his deathbed cried because he though he was going to hell for not protecting me all my life. He died a very sad and brokenhearted man. People need to realize what they are doing to themselves and their families and change the pattern before it is too late for everyone in the family.
JOHN and DEVON
Posted by: spiritwks
Posted on: 2004-10-14 08:53:08
I can't believe those parents just sit around WATCHING their two boys beat up the little girl. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?? They have no standards... anything goes for anyone anytime. Don't they understand how they are totally FAILING their children by not expecting decency and respect??
Good grief.... and the mother sits there on the Dr. Phil program smiling at everything he says, totally poised. I just don't think she gets it. Not in the least.
Posted by: spiritwks
Posted on: 2004-10-14 08:53:08
I can't believe those parents just sit around WATCHING their two boys beat up the little girl. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?? They have no standards... anything goes for anyone anytime. Don't they understand how they are totally FAILING their children by not expecting decency and respect??
Good grief.... and the mother sits there on the Dr. Phil program smiling at everything he says, totally poised. I just don't think she gets it. Not in the least.
JOHN and DEVON
Posted by: maurissaq
Posted on: 2004-10-14 10:22:25
John and Devon,
I wish you two the best of luck in getting your marriage and family back in order. Just take it one day at a time and keep trying. DON'T GIVE UP! You are NOT alone! The screaming and not getting along happens in our house too. And we too are trying to change some things. It's been a long time since we've seen you. But, we are thinking about you and what you are going through. WE CAN DO THIS!! If you need to talk, I'm here....I know we weren't ever close but, everyone needs someone to talk to and I'm here if you need me. GOOD LUCK!
Posted by: maurissaq
Posted on: 2004-10-14 10:22:25
John and Devon,
I wish you two the best of luck in getting your marriage and family back in order. Just take it one day at a time and keep trying. DON'T GIVE UP! You are NOT alone! The screaming and not getting along happens in our house too. And we too are trying to change some things. It's been a long time since we've seen you. But, we are thinking about you and what you are going through. WE CAN DO THIS!! If you need to talk, I'm here....I know we weren't ever close but, everyone needs someone to talk to and I'm here if you need me. GOOD LUCK!
Forgot to give you email address
Posted by: maurissaq
Posted on: 2004-10-14 10:48:36
My email address is MaurissaQ@aol.com
Posted by: maurissaq
Posted on: 2004-10-14 10:48:36
My email address is MaurissaQ@aol.com
GLENN
Posted by: glenn158
Posted on: 2004-10-14 11:54:31
My email address is OHIOglennspringer29@comcast.net
Posted by: glenn158
Posted on: 2004-10-14 11:54:31
My email address is OHIOglennspringer29@comcast.net
Stop the bullying now!
Posted by: carma007
Posted on: 2004-10-14 19:13:19
My heart went out to Katie. I know how she feels. My parents allowed my brothers to call me names just as Katies brothers do, or they would say to me that my parents didn't want me. I was always treated as ugly at school and never went.
I am now a grown woman with children of my own and a college degree.
My brothers still think it is funny to call me names, or try and tell me and my spouse what to do. Needless to say we have no relationship because I won't tolerate their disrespect of me and neither will my husband. I don't want my children to witness it either.
I recently told my mother how this bothered me and she said "it was all in fun and just sibling rivalry". I told her it wasn't funny to me and I never laughed. When she told my brothers they were delighted that my feelings were hurt.
Please John and Devon, stop the bullying now or it will continue and her brothers Your sons, will never respect her as a sister and a woman.
I know I am still listening to it.
Posted by: carma007
Posted on: 2004-10-14 19:13:19
My heart went out to Katie. I know how she feels. My parents allowed my brothers to call me names just as Katies brothers do, or they would say to me that my parents didn't want me. I was always treated as ugly at school and never went.
I am now a grown woman with children of my own and a college degree.
My brothers still think it is funny to call me names, or try and tell me and my spouse what to do. Needless to say we have no relationship because I won't tolerate their disrespect of me and neither will my husband. I don't want my children to witness it either.
I recently told my mother how this bothered me and she said "it was all in fun and just sibling rivalry". I told her it wasn't funny to me and I never laughed. When she told my brothers they were delighted that my feelings were hurt.
Please John and Devon, stop the bullying now or it will continue and her brothers Your sons, will never respect her as a sister and a woman.
I know I am still listening to it.
BULLY - FAMILY/WORKPLACE/SCHOOL/NEIGHBORHOOD
Posted by: anon_slc
Posted on: 2004-10-16 15:02:15
Tim Fields of The Field Foundation is a well known and highly respect leader in the area of stopping bullying at all levels - Family, Workplace, School and Neighborhood. His website:
www.thefieldfoundation.org
He is most known for his worldwide efforts toward "making a bully-free world". Also for bringing awareness to the varied levels of bullying and the impact on its victims and their families.
Hope it helps!
Posted by: anon_slc
Posted on: 2004-10-16 15:02:15
Tim Fields of The Field Foundation is a well known and highly respect leader in the area of stopping bullying at all levels - Family, Workplace, School and Neighborhood. His website:
www.thefieldfoundation.org
He is most known for his worldwide efforts toward "making a bully-free world". Also for bringing awareness to the varied levels of bullying and the impact on its victims and their families.
Hope it helps!
family first
Posted by: talesi
Posted on: 2004-10-14 22:27:20
What a show today! The first family SHAME ON THE FATHER. He is the role model and example for those boy's. He disrespects the "mother" his "wife" his "partner" and that is what he is teaching his boys. They in turn disrespect their mother AND their sisters. Let me introduce you to the next tow women abuser's.
Unless the father steps in and shows them the meaning of respect. Respect for women in general. Respect for your mother and your sister is higher. The boys are setting the tone for the type of man that is "acceptable" for that sweet girl.
I was a young single mother of 2 older boy and younger daughter. I too came from a very abusive family where the boys beat me and I fought back, where my father beat me and I had to defend myself. I allowed my father to beat me and I would challenge him "hit me, hit me, does that make you feel like a man?". I became numb and still am when it comes to "authority". I demand respect..but differently. I "got help". I still have issues however it is every day that I work on them.
When my son was 5 and my daughter was 3 her would try and bully her. He would tell her what she liked and disliked. She could not think for herself. I had to break that cycle "without" breaking either of them. I went to counseling and learned so much. John was mirroring my behavior "with him" and assumed the role of the adult....he was only 5. I had to take control. I would get a friend to stay with one child and I began to "re-invent" my relationship with each of my children individuall. I had to learn how to deal with each of them "individually". I had to learn to lock myself in my room when I felt the "heat or rage" inside me. I realize it is an illness, I still get the feelings. The difference is that I know what it is, and I know how to deal with that. YES, it is scary and hard to explain. However I am a better mother for knowing the systoms.
I worked really hard with my son, teaching him respect and his role as a 5 year old. It was just that "be 5". Be a brother and be a friend. Be someone Sarena can count on NOT someone she is afraid of. As a single mother who was battered in her family and by her husband I worried about my life. Without putting too much fear I had to let John know that if something happened to me "he is all she has". It is important that they stick together as a united family. We are "one". We are a work in progress "everyday". We have to learn to celebrate the good days and manage the bad.
My advise for the mother is to do what I did. I tapped into my child's hidden talent of art. I would take her on "me" dates to the mall, have lunch and by crafts (whatever her talent is), I would let her teach me something new. I would post her work and YES I would make her brother wear her work to show support. She attended his karate, soccer and school plays. She was very proud and his biggest fan. It is his responsibility to be the same.
PARENTS: If you don't own this "everyday" you will regret it later. My son is 18 and my daughter is 16. We have an amazing relationship. Not always perfect but we are supportive of each other. We have our family traditions and systems. John works as I am trying to research how to get funding for college, I never went to a formal college, but I want this for my son. He wants to go to college I just don't know where to start..sorry not my soap box.
Hang in their parents. Men "please" step up where your wives are concerned. They are your "partners". When you said "til death due us part and for good times and bad" YOU MADE A PROMISE AND A COMMITMENT. Those are not words marriage is a united commitment of two people becoming one. You are setting the example for your children and their relationships. I had to ask myself "what do I want for my family". The answer, I want my family over for "every" holiday. In order for that to happen I had to NOT push them away. They did not ask to be brought into this world.
Bless you all!
Posted by: talesi
Posted on: 2004-10-14 22:27:20
What a show today! The first family SHAME ON THE FATHER. He is the role model and example for those boy's. He disrespects the "mother" his "wife" his "partner" and that is what he is teaching his boys. They in turn disrespect their mother AND their sisters. Let me introduce you to the next tow women abuser's.
Unless the father steps in and shows them the meaning of respect. Respect for women in general. Respect for your mother and your sister is higher. The boys are setting the tone for the type of man that is "acceptable" for that sweet girl.
I was a young single mother of 2 older boy and younger daughter. I too came from a very abusive family where the boys beat me and I fought back, where my father beat me and I had to defend myself. I allowed my father to beat me and I would challenge him "hit me, hit me, does that make you feel like a man?". I became numb and still am when it comes to "authority". I demand respect..but differently. I "got help". I still have issues however it is every day that I work on them.
When my son was 5 and my daughter was 3 her would try and bully her. He would tell her what she liked and disliked. She could not think for herself. I had to break that cycle "without" breaking either of them. I went to counseling and learned so much. John was mirroring my behavior "with him" and assumed the role of the adult....he was only 5. I had to take control. I would get a friend to stay with one child and I began to "re-invent" my relationship with each of my children individuall. I had to learn how to deal with each of them "individually". I had to learn to lock myself in my room when I felt the "heat or rage" inside me. I realize it is an illness, I still get the feelings. The difference is that I know what it is, and I know how to deal with that. YES, it is scary and hard to explain. However I am a better mother for knowing the systoms.
I worked really hard with my son, teaching him respect and his role as a 5 year old. It was just that "be 5". Be a brother and be a friend. Be someone Sarena can count on NOT someone she is afraid of. As a single mother who was battered in her family and by her husband I worried about my life. Without putting too much fear I had to let John know that if something happened to me "he is all she has". It is important that they stick together as a united family. We are "one". We are a work in progress "everyday". We have to learn to celebrate the good days and manage the bad.
My advise for the mother is to do what I did. I tapped into my child's hidden talent of art. I would take her on "me" dates to the mall, have lunch and by crafts (whatever her talent is), I would let her teach me something new. I would post her work and YES I would make her brother wear her work to show support. She attended his karate, soccer and school plays. She was very proud and his biggest fan. It is his responsibility to be the same.
PARENTS: If you don't own this "everyday" you will regret it later. My son is 18 and my daughter is 16. We have an amazing relationship. Not always perfect but we are supportive of each other. We have our family traditions and systems. John works as I am trying to research how to get funding for college, I never went to a formal college, but I want this for my son. He wants to go to college I just don't know where to start..sorry not my soap box.
Hang in their parents. Men "please" step up where your wives are concerned. They are your "partners". When you said "til death due us part and for good times and bad" YOU MADE A PROMISE AND A COMMITMENT. Those are not words marriage is a united commitment of two people becoming one. You are setting the example for your children and their relationships. I had to ask myself "what do I want for my family". The answer, I want my family over for "every" holiday. In order for that to happen I had to NOT push them away. They did not ask to be brought into this world.
Bless you all!
Incomprehensive
Posted by: ashleyjade
Posted on: 2004-10-15 13:10:36
At this point I am just LIVID! My first response to the show was...Sadness. My Heart is really heavy for Katy. There is a definitely a line between sibling fighting and abuse. I strongly believe that to get respect you have to give respect. The respect starts with the parents (which they don’t even have for their spouse). They should have enough respect for Katy to absolutely not allow anyone treat her like disrespectful. First, I know if ANYONE were terrorizing either of my children, regardless whom it is, it would be my first response to protect them. I am really appalled that the parents are actually seeing this go on and the boys have no consequences. As adults we learn that every action in life has a consequence whether it be good or bad. Those young men will never be productive members of society if this is not taken under control. They need STRUCTURE. Second, Neither the PARENTS or the CHILDREN should be using any type of degrading/disrespectful language. Children learn what they live and/or what they perceive as acceptable.
Katy you are a absolutely beautiful, artistic, wonderful young lady. Do not let ANYONE break your spirit. You can accomplish anything and everything in life. I hope everything is going be well for you and your family. We all have issues in our life that seem hard to get through however, you are a strong young lady and you will be great.
My email address lovebugsecrets@yahoo.com
Posted by: ashleyjade
Posted on: 2004-10-15 13:10:36
At this point I am just LIVID! My first response to the show was...Sadness. My Heart is really heavy for Katy. There is a definitely a line between sibling fighting and abuse. I strongly believe that to get respect you have to give respect. The respect starts with the parents (which they don’t even have for their spouse). They should have enough respect for Katy to absolutely not allow anyone treat her like disrespectful. First, I know if ANYONE were terrorizing either of my children, regardless whom it is, it would be my first response to protect them. I am really appalled that the parents are actually seeing this go on and the boys have no consequences. As adults we learn that every action in life has a consequence whether it be good or bad. Those young men will never be productive members of society if this is not taken under control. They need STRUCTURE. Second, Neither the PARENTS or the CHILDREN should be using any type of degrading/disrespectful language. Children learn what they live and/or what they perceive as acceptable.
Katy you are a absolutely beautiful, artistic, wonderful young lady. Do not let ANYONE break your spirit. You can accomplish anything and everything in life. I hope everything is going be well for you and your family. We all have issues in our life that seem hard to get through however, you are a strong young lady and you will be great.
My email address lovebugsecrets@yahoo.com
John take control
Posted by: campng
Posted on: 2004-10-15 14:58:31
Your family is in crisis. John since when is it "OK" to allow "boys" to be bullies. It seems to me that your reaction (or lack of reaction) as an adult is reflective of your own behavior as a child. You have the power to change this behavior in your own children. I'm sure you don't want your daughter to go grow up being with abusive men but if that's all she knows then that will be path she takes. You as a role model can change that path. Your sons are good sons but make poor choices from lack of parental fathering role modeling. The boys have "no respect" for their mother and you support that by not teaching otherwise. They are taught that it's "acceptable" to treat women this way when it is not.....they too will have issues with relationship as adults because they do not know how to treat others with respect.
Posted by: campng
Posted on: 2004-10-15 14:58:31
Your family is in crisis. John since when is it "OK" to allow "boys" to be bullies. It seems to me that your reaction (or lack of reaction) as an adult is reflective of your own behavior as a child. You have the power to change this behavior in your own children. I'm sure you don't want your daughter to go grow up being with abusive men but if that's all she knows then that will be path she takes. You as a role model can change that path. Your sons are good sons but make poor choices from lack of parental fathering role modeling. The boys have "no respect" for their mother and you support that by not teaching otherwise. They are taught that it's "acceptable" to treat women this way when it is not.....they too will have issues with relationship as adults because they do not know how to treat others with respect.
Katie
Posted by: atlswan
Posted on: 2004-10-14 09:17:24
My heart is breaking for Katie. It is one thing to be teased at school and called names. But to come home where you're supposed to be loved for who you are and have your own brothers do it? And for your parents sit there and do nothing? She must feel like she's been thrown to the wolves.
I'm so glad that they took her to a specialist and had the scans done. Maybe her brothers will cool it now. I can only hope.
This kind of behavior really bothers me because it indicates a lack of empathy and compassion for others. What about people who actually do have learning disabilites or physical limitations? Are these boys going to think it is fair game to call them "retard" or harass them?
I remember being Katie's age. I didn't have brothers. But I didn't have any friends for about a year, like her. I felt so ugly and unwanted. But my parents loved me and kept telling me I was special. And by the next year, I became friends with a girl who is STILL my best friend after 22 years! If I had been teased by brothers like Katie's, I don't know if I would have survived that year.
Posted by: atlswan
Posted on: 2004-10-14 09:17:24
My heart is breaking for Katie. It is one thing to be teased at school and called names. But to come home where you're supposed to be loved for who you are and have your own brothers do it? And for your parents sit there and do nothing? She must feel like she's been thrown to the wolves.
I'm so glad that they took her to a specialist and had the scans done. Maybe her brothers will cool it now. I can only hope.
This kind of behavior really bothers me because it indicates a lack of empathy and compassion for others. What about people who actually do have learning disabilites or physical limitations? Are these boys going to think it is fair game to call them "retard" or harass them?
I remember being Katie's age. I didn't have brothers. But I didn't have any friends for about a year, like her. I felt so ugly and unwanted. But my parents loved me and kept telling me I was special. And by the next year, I became friends with a girl who is STILL my best friend after 22 years! If I had been teased by brothers like Katie's, I don't know if I would have survived that year.
I totally agree with you
Posted by: justpicky
Posted on: 2004-10-14 16:49:36
I feel the parents are at fault for all this to happen. That young lady should never have to go through this. Something needs to be done.
Posted by: justpicky
Posted on: 2004-10-14 16:49:36
I feel the parents are at fault for all this to happen. That young lady should never have to go through this. Something needs to be done.
Hard to watch - many memories
Posted by: heightsmt
Posted on: 2004-10-14 09:57:14
This show really got my blood boiling and lots of memories. I remarried 5 years ago - my husband was custodial to his kids, ages 10, 8 and 8 at the time. And I have my two kids, ages 8 and 7 at the time. My stepkids bullied each other ALL THE TIME. ALL THE TIME. And then they started on my children. Their dad, my husband, did not intervene - he was their role model by bullying THEM. And you know what - I GOT OUT OF THAT SITUATION. This is so unacceptable I cannot even put it into words. My husband and I are separated and have been separated for quite a while. I will never live with them again, NEVER, unless and until they get some family counseling.
I have taught my children respect for each other and other people and I will never condone bullying and violence and name-calling, especially in my own home. Never. Never.
My husband does not see the error of his ways and does not recognize the unacceptable behavior his children, but you know what, I do, I know it's wrong and unacceptable. And I won't live that way. It's a shame my husband won't get help for himself and his kids, but I cannot control him, I can only control me. And if the situation reaches the point of mental abuse, then it's time to take action.
Nobody should ever have to live with this.
Posted by: heightsmt
Posted on: 2004-10-14 09:57:14
This show really got my blood boiling and lots of memories. I remarried 5 years ago - my husband was custodial to his kids, ages 10, 8 and 8 at the time. And I have my two kids, ages 8 and 7 at the time. My stepkids bullied each other ALL THE TIME. ALL THE TIME. And then they started on my children. Their dad, my husband, did not intervene - he was their role model by bullying THEM. And you know what - I GOT OUT OF THAT SITUATION. This is so unacceptable I cannot even put it into words. My husband and I are separated and have been separated for quite a while. I will never live with them again, NEVER, unless and until they get some family counseling.
I have taught my children respect for each other and other people and I will never condone bullying and violence and name-calling, especially in my own home. Never. Never.
My husband does not see the error of his ways and does not recognize the unacceptable behavior his children, but you know what, I do, I know it's wrong and unacceptable. And I won't live that way. It's a shame my husband won't get help for himself and his kids, but I cannot control him, I can only control me. And if the situation reaches the point of mental abuse, then it's time to take action.
Nobody should ever have to live with this.
