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Posted by: anon_slc
Posted on: 2004-09-18 14:29:12
I hope Dr Phil and Jay do a show based on implementing an Anti-Bullying campaign at one or more (ideally all) of the Elgin elementary, middle and high schools.
It would be great to have a campaign leader (student, teacher, principal) at each of the schools in Elgin and have all the campaigns run simultaneously on the same date and time.
Have each location hooked up with a television feed so the entire Dr Phil viewing audience can witness the impact of a much needed campaign of STOPPING BULLYING IN SCHOOLS!!!
Webmaster, can you please provide the information to the DR PHIL link for downloading the Anti-Bullying campaign materials.
Posted by: anon_slc
Posted on: 2004-09-18 14:29:12
I hope Dr Phil and Jay do a show based on implementing an Anti-Bullying campaign at one or more (ideally all) of the Elgin elementary, middle and high schools.
It would be great to have a campaign leader (student, teacher, principal) at each of the schools in Elgin and have all the campaigns run simultaneously on the same date and time.
Have each location hooked up with a television feed so the entire Dr Phil viewing audience can witness the impact of a much needed campaign of STOPPING BULLYING IN SCHOOLS!!!
Webmaster, can you please provide the information to the DR PHIL link for downloading the Anti-Bullying campaign materials.
Anti-Bullying Campaign
Posted by: pb6936578
Posted on: 2004-09-19 15:46:07
I've added links to the Anti Bullying materials at the top of this board.
Posted by: pb6936578
Posted on: 2004-09-19 15:46:07
I've added links to the Anti Bullying materials at the top of this board.
No longer the punching bag of Elgin, TX
Posted by: fthayer
Posted on: 2004-09-21 12:49:28
Everytime I watch a bullying segment on the Dr. Phil Show, it always strikes a nerve. Jay McGraw (aka-Dr. Phil, Jr.) is bang-on everytime he states that general observers play a detrimental part by continuing just to let it happen. When I told my corrupt biological relatives the hell I was going through in school & sleep-away camp, those stupid morons simply said, "Everybody goes through it." Well, if "everybody" actually went through it, this epidemic wouldn't be possible. The need for antogonists who aren't on the receiving end is paramount for this whole process to sustain itself. Since those corrupt biological relatives weren't willing to do anything on my behalf, I forced myself to stand up against these harmful personal crimes as I was the last line of defence. Those who have faced oppression can certainly use some helpful allies for a competitive advantage. Thank goodness this Elgin, TX tween now has them at his disposal, primarily b/c of
Dr. Phil's active involvement. Even though the kid would have been much better off receiving licensed merchandise of the Chicago Bears as opposed to the Dallas Cowboys, at least the child will likely function a whole lot better over the long haul. While he'll certainly be haunted from such brutal memories throughout his life, it may please him to realize there was a definitive point in time where all that unwarranted punishment came to an abrupt end once and for all!
Posted by: fthayer
Posted on: 2004-09-21 12:49:28
Everytime I watch a bullying segment on the Dr. Phil Show, it always strikes a nerve. Jay McGraw (aka-Dr. Phil, Jr.) is bang-on everytime he states that general observers play a detrimental part by continuing just to let it happen. When I told my corrupt biological relatives the hell I was going through in school & sleep-away camp, those stupid morons simply said, "Everybody goes through it." Well, if "everybody" actually went through it, this epidemic wouldn't be possible. The need for antogonists who aren't on the receiving end is paramount for this whole process to sustain itself. Since those corrupt biological relatives weren't willing to do anything on my behalf, I forced myself to stand up against these harmful personal crimes as I was the last line of defence. Those who have faced oppression can certainly use some helpful allies for a competitive advantage. Thank goodness this Elgin, TX tween now has them at his disposal, primarily b/c of
Dr. Phil's active involvement. Even though the kid would have been much better off receiving licensed merchandise of the Chicago Bears as opposed to the Dallas Cowboys, at least the child will likely function a whole lot better over the long haul. While he'll certainly be haunted from such brutal memories throughout his life, it may please him to realize there was a definitive point in time where all that unwarranted punishment came to an abrupt end once and for all!
HELP PREVENTING TEEN PREGNANCY
Posted by: ournana
Posted on: 2004-09-20 17:23:04
There is a baby doll available that every school in the USA should provide to all ninth
graders, make it mandatory. Match up a boy & girl couple, making them live together under
parental supervision, separate bedrooms of course, sharing caring for this baby, feeding it, changing it's diapers,the doll cries if it needs either of the above, bathing it, take it all places
the couple go, even school, believe me, they would be very embarrassed if the baby cries in public, where it would need fed and changed. All the time, the couple must also keep up with their other school subjects and classes. Also, have the couple realize what it's like to pay rent, utilities, car expenses, including insurance and it's pymts., food,etc., no extra money from the males job income, which the teacher has sparingly specified, for name brand clothes, shoes, cell phones, music, movies, eating out etc. I guarantee you that
after a 3 or 4 month course of this, they teens will think twice before they have sex, knowing it's consequences !!! How do you like this Dr. Phil, want me for your assistant lol.
Posted by: ournana
Posted on: 2004-09-20 17:23:04
There is a baby doll available that every school in the USA should provide to all ninth
graders, make it mandatory. Match up a boy & girl couple, making them live together under
parental supervision, separate bedrooms of course, sharing caring for this baby, feeding it, changing it's diapers,the doll cries if it needs either of the above, bathing it, take it all places
the couple go, even school, believe me, they would be very embarrassed if the baby cries in public, where it would need fed and changed. All the time, the couple must also keep up with their other school subjects and classes. Also, have the couple realize what it's like to pay rent, utilities, car expenses, including insurance and it's pymts., food,etc., no extra money from the males job income, which the teacher has sparingly specified, for name brand clothes, shoes, cell phones, music, movies, eating out etc. I guarantee you that
after a 3 or 4 month course of this, they teens will think twice before they have sex, knowing it's consequences !!! How do you like this Dr. Phil, want me for your assistant lol.
Parts of that could work
Posted by: lena22
Posted on: 2004-09-20 18:08:16
I used to live in Washington state. It is required in Washington that highschoolers take a child development class. In that class you are given a baby that has a computer chip in it that is programed to cry and to record how long it took you to respond or if you abused the baby. It is usually set on different levels that vary from peaceful to cranky. The student is given the child for 24 hours. A key is put on the students wrist that is attached to an arm band that is made so it can not be cut off or taken off. (it is impossible I tried) This is to insure that the person that is responsible for the baby does not try to pawn it off on someone else. You carry the baby around all day to all your classes and practice (if you participate in sports) and the teachers are fine with the experiment being in the class.
The baby crys at various intervals through the day. You insert the key in its back which silents the baby but to the computer it is still crying. When the baby has gotten enough attention it lets out a whimper to tell you to take the key out. If the baby is dropped thrown or abused in anyway it registers to the computer inside and you fail the class. Also if it takes you to long to respond to the child or you don't respond at all it registers to the computer and you fail the class. The end result?? You get a rough and VERY realistic view of what being a parent is like. When I took the class it was a very eye opening to me and the other students. It should be required in EVERY highschool in the United States.
Posted by: lena22
Posted on: 2004-09-20 18:08:16
I used to live in Washington state. It is required in Washington that highschoolers take a child development class. In that class you are given a baby that has a computer chip in it that is programed to cry and to record how long it took you to respond or if you abused the baby. It is usually set on different levels that vary from peaceful to cranky. The student is given the child for 24 hours. A key is put on the students wrist that is attached to an arm band that is made so it can not be cut off or taken off. (it is impossible I tried) This is to insure that the person that is responsible for the baby does not try to pawn it off on someone else. You carry the baby around all day to all your classes and practice (if you participate in sports) and the teachers are fine with the experiment being in the class.
The baby crys at various intervals through the day. You insert the key in its back which silents the baby but to the computer it is still crying. When the baby has gotten enough attention it lets out a whimper to tell you to take the key out. If the baby is dropped thrown or abused in anyway it registers to the computer inside and you fail the class. Also if it takes you to long to respond to the child or you don't respond at all it registers to the computer and you fail the class. The end result?? You get a rough and VERY realistic view of what being a parent is like. When I took the class it was a very eye opening to me and the other students. It should be required in EVERY highschool in the United States.
wouldn't work for all
Posted by: teenmom_x2
Posted on: 2004-09-20 18:36:36
Maybe that would work for some teens, but others would love it. They did that at my school (I didn't get to take the class although I wanted to because it was already too filled up.) Let me tell you, these girls went out and bought the dolls clothes, infant carriers, real bottles, etc... It just isn't realistic to simulate what having a child is really like. Even if the lack of sleep gets to them, the feeling will be forgotten soon enough. Also, the vast majority of teens having sex (who don't WANT to have a baby) don't think it would ever happen to them anyway ESPECIALLY if they are using protection- no matter what they teach in sex ed because it is developmentally appropriate for teens to think they are invinsible and that they will be the exception. You could tell the girls that want babies that 99% of the fathers don't stick around and they will still insist that their boyfriend will.
Being a PARENT isn't just about financial responsibility and basic infant care- it is about making critical decisions on a daily basis and trying to best judge how they will affect the child's future. Even the most technologically advanced of dolls can't simulate that kind of pressure.
Posted by: teenmom_x2
Posted on: 2004-09-20 18:36:36
Maybe that would work for some teens, but others would love it. They did that at my school (I didn't get to take the class although I wanted to because it was already too filled up.) Let me tell you, these girls went out and bought the dolls clothes, infant carriers, real bottles, etc... It just isn't realistic to simulate what having a child is really like. Even if the lack of sleep gets to them, the feeling will be forgotten soon enough. Also, the vast majority of teens having sex (who don't WANT to have a baby) don't think it would ever happen to them anyway ESPECIALLY if they are using protection- no matter what they teach in sex ed because it is developmentally appropriate for teens to think they are invinsible and that they will be the exception. You could tell the girls that want babies that 99% of the fathers don't stick around and they will still insist that their boyfriend will.
Being a PARENT isn't just about financial responsibility and basic infant care- it is about making critical decisions on a daily basis and trying to best judge how they will affect the child's future. Even the most technologically advanced of dolls can't simulate that kind of pressure.
Where are the boys?
Posted by: yolandafl
Posted on: 2004-09-20 18:30:41
I was looking forward to this program and felt a strong need to reply to the show. The show focused on teen GIRLS being pregnant but as we all know, it takes two to tango. If the boys were held accountable and made to be riticuled by the town because they became a teen dad that would make a difference. How about you make the boys give up their dreams, future plans and pay restitution to the girls and their families for their part in making a new life. Where are the boys families? Are they aware that their sons are having unprotected sex? Opening themselves up to deadly diseases and life long changes. What about having the boys work after school jobs, give up football and all the high school fun to be a dad. Have the boys wear a pregnancy suit so they can see what it feels like, have to feed, diaper, stay home on saturday nights and take care of a child 24/7 for 18 years.They also should also have to attend the "special" school for teen parents.(mothers)So they can learn how to be a parent.How about having them both talk to teens their age about what it was like having sex and the consequences that out weight the "fun". I think Dr. Phil missed out on the on other 21 teens who got pregnant in Elgin. he's only address half the problem. Everyone involved should be accountable. Teen Pregnancy is a big problem in our country. The school's are held accountable but their hands are tied by the parents. As a nation we need to come together and figure out what the plan is going to be for our children. I say offer a strong sex ed curriculum with all the sides represented by expert guest speakers and if a parent doesn't want their child taught through the school system they they can decline the course. We've tried it by letting parent's have a choice and it has become a huge society problem that effects everyone in America.
Posted by: yolandafl
Posted on: 2004-09-20 18:30:41
I was looking forward to this program and felt a strong need to reply to the show. The show focused on teen GIRLS being pregnant but as we all know, it takes two to tango. If the boys were held accountable and made to be riticuled by the town because they became a teen dad that would make a difference. How about you make the boys give up their dreams, future plans and pay restitution to the girls and their families for their part in making a new life. Where are the boys families? Are they aware that their sons are having unprotected sex? Opening themselves up to deadly diseases and life long changes. What about having the boys work after school jobs, give up football and all the high school fun to be a dad. Have the boys wear a pregnancy suit so they can see what it feels like, have to feed, diaper, stay home on saturday nights and take care of a child 24/7 for 18 years.They also should also have to attend the "special" school for teen parents.(mothers)So they can learn how to be a parent.How about having them both talk to teens their age about what it was like having sex and the consequences that out weight the "fun". I think Dr. Phil missed out on the on other 21 teens who got pregnant in Elgin. he's only address half the problem. Everyone involved should be accountable. Teen Pregnancy is a big problem in our country. The school's are held accountable but their hands are tied by the parents. As a nation we need to come together and figure out what the plan is going to be for our children. I say offer a strong sex ed curriculum with all the sides represented by expert guest speakers and if a parent doesn't want their child taught through the school system they they can decline the course. We've tried it by letting parent's have a choice and it has become a huge society problem that effects everyone in America.
Posted by: teenmom_x2
Posted on: 2004-09-20 18:59:57
A lot of the guys split because teen pregnancy is treated like a horrific disease in which your entire life gets taken away from you. Measures need to be taken to prevent teen pregnancy but to also help teen parents still be able to continue their education and have a decent future. It needs to be emphasized that this is still possible even if you are a parent. If not, guys will continue to run, and girls will continue to see their future as being lost and either give up on it or give up on being a parent.
Posted by: lena22
Posted on: 2004-09-20 20:59:46
No, alot of guys split when it comes to any young woman being pregnant because they are cowards and they don't want to take responsibility for their own actions. They leave because they can. They don't have to carry the baby for 9 months, they don't have to give birth to it they don't have to take care of it for the atleast 18 years. They don't have to do anything. Hey they don't have to pay child support. They can be lazy and not get a job so support just adds up and most states don't even enforce it. Guys leave because they can and society lets them!!
Posted by: teenmom_x2
Posted on: 2004-09-20 23:17:39
You are so very right. But maybe if they thought there might be somthing positive about parenting they would think about sticking around.
It would be nice
Posted by: yma_1980
Posted on: 2004-09-20 21:19:42
I just read your message and had to say that when I was 16 I met a guy I was almost a junior in high school we started dating thought that we were in love and then I got pregnant we broke up when I was about 11 weeks pregnant. About a week later he dropped out of school and went to another state I didnt see him again until the day after I gave birth to my son who is now 6 years old. His birth father saw him a hand full of times until he was two. When I started dating my now husband he stopped and hasnt seen my son since his 4th birthday. I really wish that there was a way to make the men be a part of there lives and pay for there mistakes.
Posted by: yma_1980
Posted on: 2004-09-20 21:19:42
I just read your message and had to say that when I was 16 I met a guy I was almost a junior in high school we started dating thought that we were in love and then I got pregnant we broke up when I was about 11 weeks pregnant. About a week later he dropped out of school and went to another state I didnt see him again until the day after I gave birth to my son who is now 6 years old. His birth father saw him a hand full of times until he was two. When I started dating my now husband he stopped and hasnt seen my son since his 4th birthday. I really wish that there was a way to make the men be a part of there lives and pay for there mistakes.
Teen Pregnancy
Posted by: bevkaddu
Posted on: 2004-09-21 08:41:33
I am the parent of 2 teens, aged 19 and 16. They are incredible, intelligent, responsible people, who both say they are waiting until marriage to be sexually intimate.
I did not wait until high school to begin to shape my children's opinions about pre-marital sex. We have had an open dialogue about sex, and finances, and careers, and spirituality since they were old enough to understand. I felt it was my responsibility to educate my children about sex, not the school, or the church.
This may not be what other parents want to hear. I have been a steward over my children since the day they were born, and have talked- and listened- about every conceivable subject that would impact their lives. Parenting is a 24 hour, 18 year+ commitment. But when we put in the effort, the end results are beyond words.
Posted by: bevkaddu
Posted on: 2004-09-21 08:41:33
I am the parent of 2 teens, aged 19 and 16. They are incredible, intelligent, responsible people, who both say they are waiting until marriage to be sexually intimate.
I did not wait until high school to begin to shape my children's opinions about pre-marital sex. We have had an open dialogue about sex, and finances, and careers, and spirituality since they were old enough to understand. I felt it was my responsibility to educate my children about sex, not the school, or the church.
This may not be what other parents want to hear. I have been a steward over my children since the day they were born, and have talked- and listened- about every conceivable subject that would impact their lives. Parenting is a 24 hour, 18 year+ commitment. But when we put in the effort, the end results are beyond words.
Posted by: marcia_15
Posted on: 2004-09-23 21:27:44
Well I'm 13 and I go to a privite catholic school. At my school they teach us the pms (pre marital sex) Is wrong. But yet sex is in all of my class mates minds. It bugs me becuase one of my friends could become a pregant teenager. When they ask me for advice I say "don't ruin your life becuase you want to try something wait until its time. You have a future ahead of you." I'm always teased becuase I give that kind of advice. But I know that I have the courage to be strong and look bewteewn that! If things get really bad about the teasing I try not to hold it inside but I talk to the priest at my church. I may be a girl of strong faith but parents you have to remember your teen ager is still thrying to figure out who they really are. We may make the wrong choices but we need to stand right back up. Support your child and listen! hey! I know my mom hardly hears me. That why I go to my prienst! Just listen!
Posted by: teenmom_x2
Posted on: 2004-09-24 13:04:53
It is great that you have such strong values. Just make sure you hold on to them as you get older. When I was 12 and in the 6th grade we had a sex ed class and me and three of my friends swore we would never have sex until we were married yet a year later I lost my virginity and 2 years after that I became pregnant. As you get older there will be more pressure out there but you have to stay strong and focus your attention on something other than boys. Don't abandoned your friends who are making wrong choices because people like that need people like you. But at the same time you should try to find some new friends who share your beliefs so you will have someone there to back you up when you do feel pressured. There is strength in numbers. I think a lot of people just do things because they think other people will think it is cool, but if people like yourself start standing up for what is right, others who want to say something but were too embarrassed might start speaking out as well and before you know it your opinion will become the popular one.
Bullying Effects Everyone
Posted by: claralawre
Posted on: 2004-09-19 21:09:31
I do believe we as community should take bullying on. I hope this helps our schools as well as parents and teachers. I do plan on looking and considering this pledge very seriously. I hope others do as well. I have a sister who's son was the target of a bully in his school for too long. It took a toll on his self esteem.
Clara, Elgin, TX
Posted by: claralawre
Posted on: 2004-09-19 21:09:31
I do believe we as community should take bullying on. I hope this helps our schools as well as parents and teachers. I do plan on looking and considering this pledge very seriously. I hope others do as well. I have a sister who's son was the target of a bully in his school for too long. It took a toll on his self esteem.
Clara, Elgin, TX
texasmom
Posted by: softbase
Posted on: 2004-09-20 13:04:31
I think the pledge commitment is a great idea. My concern is the parents do not get involved soon enough. My son recently told me that he was being bullied at school and within 1 day I had spoken with my sons teacher and the school counselor. My husband subsequently spoke with both kids parents as well. I will be forwarding a copy of the pledge to the counselor as I have learned he is not the only victim of bullying at his school.
Posted by: softbase
Posted on: 2004-09-20 13:04:31
I think the pledge commitment is a great idea. My concern is the parents do not get involved soon enough. My son recently told me that he was being bullied at school and within 1 day I had spoken with my sons teacher and the school counselor. My husband subsequently spoke with both kids parents as well. I will be forwarding a copy of the pledge to the counselor as I have learned he is not the only victim of bullying at his school.
Sex Education
Posted by: akgreeny
Posted on: 2004-09-20 08:38:56
After watching Monday's show, I had to put my two cents in. I attended high school in two different states and they had very different policies regarding sex education. The first, a school in Anchorage, Alaska, approached sex ed in a realistic way. From the time I was in 5th grade until 10th grade, we were taught about the anatomy of male and female sex organs, the changes that occur during puberty, how pregnancy occurs and the dangers of unprotected sex. Parents had to give permission for their child to participate in these classes. Abstinence was stressed as the best choice, but we were also taught how to properly use condoms and other forms of birth control.
At the second high school, in rural Iowa, nothing of this sort was talked about in school. I had classmates who were 16-17 years old, sexually active, who didn't understand their own anatomy. One girl didn't know enough about her body to know that she could urinate while wearing a tampon, but she was having sex with multiple partners.
Teenagers need to be taught about their bodies in a frank, honest, accurate way. Parents are not always willing or prepared to do this. Teens are not always comfortable talking to their parents about these things. Lack of education is not going to prevent teen sex or pregnancy.
Posted by: akgreeny
Posted on: 2004-09-20 08:38:56
After watching Monday's show, I had to put my two cents in. I attended high school in two different states and they had very different policies regarding sex education. The first, a school in Anchorage, Alaska, approached sex ed in a realistic way. From the time I was in 5th grade until 10th grade, we were taught about the anatomy of male and female sex organs, the changes that occur during puberty, how pregnancy occurs and the dangers of unprotected sex. Parents had to give permission for their child to participate in these classes. Abstinence was stressed as the best choice, but we were also taught how to properly use condoms and other forms of birth control.
At the second high school, in rural Iowa, nothing of this sort was talked about in school. I had classmates who were 16-17 years old, sexually active, who didn't understand their own anatomy. One girl didn't know enough about her body to know that she could urinate while wearing a tampon, but she was having sex with multiple partners.
Teenagers need to be taught about their bodies in a frank, honest, accurate way. Parents are not always willing or prepared to do this. Teens are not always comfortable talking to their parents about these things. Lack of education is not going to prevent teen sex or pregnancy.
Sex Education
Posted by: buzz324
Posted on: 2004-09-20 15:29:22
I was also compelled to write after watching the show. I had sex education at school AND at home. My parents were very responsive to our questions and took the time, though I'm sure it was uncomfortable for them, to patiently answer all of our questions whenever we asked. We were never told, "We'll talk about it when you're older." We were always given answers that were appropriate for our ages and level of comprehension. In fact, our classes at school gave them the perfect opportunity to discuss it more fully and find out what we knew or needed to know and to fill in their moral opinions along with the facts.
I'm not sure why people are certain that sex education leads to sexual activity and I couldn't begin to quote statistics but I can say that I was a virgin (not a prude) by choice until I was 20 years old because of my sex education both at home and at school.
Posted by: buzz324
Posted on: 2004-09-20 15:29:22
I was also compelled to write after watching the show. I had sex education at school AND at home. My parents were very responsive to our questions and took the time, though I'm sure it was uncomfortable for them, to patiently answer all of our questions whenever we asked. We were never told, "We'll talk about it when you're older." We were always given answers that were appropriate for our ages and level of comprehension. In fact, our classes at school gave them the perfect opportunity to discuss it more fully and find out what we knew or needed to know and to fill in their moral opinions along with the facts.
I'm not sure why people are certain that sex education leads to sexual activity and I couldn't begin to quote statistics but I can say that I was a virgin (not a prude) by choice until I was 20 years old because of my sex education both at home and at school.
Sex Education
Posted by: katiecake3
Posted on: 2004-09-20 16:18:35
I'm 15 and I completly agree that sex ed should be taught in both the home and the school.
Posted by: katiecake3
Posted on: 2004-09-20 16:18:35
I'm 15 and I completly agree that sex ed should be taught in both the home and the school.
I too agree
Posted by: getcrabbed
Posted on: 2004-09-20 17:03:03
In school AND at home. Parents need to stop making schools responsible for educating their children. It is their job! My parents always told me what I wanted to know but explained to me that in this dangerous world, abstinance was the only logical choice until marriage. I do however disagree with distributing condoms and birthcontrol in school. There are plenty of places where teenagers can get both for free. Schools should not be advocating promiscuity or telling teens that they are too stupid to make good decisions. Give all the information necessary for safe sex but dont advocate it by handing out condoms. If a high schooler is old enough to have sex, they are old enough to go to planned parenthood for birth control or the drug store for condoms. If teens want to make adult decisions, they need to be responsible for themselves. It isn't a teachers job and it isn't the tax payers jobs.
Posted by: getcrabbed
Posted on: 2004-09-20 17:03:03
In school AND at home. Parents need to stop making schools responsible for educating their children. It is their job! My parents always told me what I wanted to know but explained to me that in this dangerous world, abstinance was the only logical choice until marriage. I do however disagree with distributing condoms and birthcontrol in school. There are plenty of places where teenagers can get both for free. Schools should not be advocating promiscuity or telling teens that they are too stupid to make good decisions. Give all the information necessary for safe sex but dont advocate it by handing out condoms. If a high schooler is old enough to have sex, they are old enough to go to planned parenthood for birth control or the drug store for condoms. If teens want to make adult decisions, they need to be responsible for themselves. It isn't a teachers job and it isn't the tax payers jobs.
